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    • AUser
    • By AUser 8th Jul 17, 2:30 PM
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    Homebase late delivery compensation
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    • 8th Jul 17, 2:30 PM
    Homebase late delivery compensation 8th Jul 17 at 2:30 PM
    Hi everyone,

    I recently ordered some chairs from Homebase online and they said the delivery would be within 7 days. At the end of the 6th day no one called us so we decided to call and figure out what was going on. They said they were going to call us on the day and nothing... Same story next day and the day after. In store they told us they had no stock so couldn't fulfill the order.

    After two weeks from the order, we emailed them and they said they will finally delivery and I asked for some store credit and they offered £10 (on a £91 order) do you think it is fair or should I refuse and ask for more?

    Thanks.
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    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 8th Jul 17, 2:32 PM
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    I'd be asking for at least £500 (unless there was potential harm to children in which case £1,000)

    Seriously though what's the loss/additional costs that you're claiming for ?
    • AUser
    • By AUser 8th Jul 17, 2:45 PM
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    Not claiming for any loss, they are in breach of our "contract", if I buy something online and it gives you a date, they can't just randomly deliver it when they want. I wanted them within that week (we didn't, but we could have needed them to host some guests....)

    £10 seems pretty ridiculous, but the order is not massive and it's one week extra, I was interested to see if other people would expect more.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 8th Jul 17, 2:54 PM
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    • 8th Jul 17, 2:54 PM
    Not claiming for any loss, they are in breach of our "contract", if I buy something online and it gives you a date, they can't just randomly deliver it when they want. I wanted them within that week (we didn't, but we could have needed them to host some guests....)

    £10 seems pretty ridiculous, but the order is not massive and it's one week extra, I was interested to see if other people would expect more.
    Originally posted by AUser
    so say they had 4 sets of these and 5 people ordered them, at the time of ordering their system would generate and give delivery dates, but when packers go to pack the goods to deliver they find they only have 4 sets, are you expecting them to just grab another set from thin air or wait until they get a new delivery in from their supplier. you will find no contract is formed until goods are dispatched
    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 8th Jul 17, 2:57 PM
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    • 8th Jul 17, 2:57 PM
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    • 8th Jul 17, 2:57 PM
    Not claiming for any loss, they are in breach of our "contract", if I buy something online and it gives you a date, they can't just randomly deliver it when they want. I wanted them within that week (we didn't, but we could have needed them to host some guests....)

    £10 seems pretty ridiculous, but the order is not massive and it's one week extra, I was interested to see if other people would expect more.
    Originally posted by AUser
    No they have not breached any contract.

    The delivery date was an estimate, unless at the time of forming the contract you and the seller agreed that time was of the essence.

    Even if they were in breach of contract, you have no right to a penalty, only any loss you may have suffered.

    From their T&Cs:
    Homebase shall be under no liability for any delay or failure to deliver the products within estimated timescales.
    Last edited by wealdroam; 08-07-2017 at 3:03 PM.
    • powerful_Rogue
    • By powerful_Rogue 8th Jul 17, 3:04 PM
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    • 8th Jul 17, 3:04 PM
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    • 8th Jul 17, 3:04 PM
    Hi everyone,

    I recently ordered some chairs from Homebase online and they said the delivery would be within 7 days. At the end of the 6th day no one called us so we decided to call and figure out what was going on. They said they were going to call us on the day and nothing... Same story next day and the day after. In store they told us they had no stock so couldn't fulfill the order.

    After two weeks from the order, we emailed them and they said they will finally delivery and I asked for some store credit and they offered £10 (on a £91 order) do you think it is fair or should I refuse and ask for more?

    Thanks.
    Originally posted by AUser
    11% back for a later delivery, jump at it!

    If your not happy with it, cancel the order and get the items elsewhere.
    • AUser
    • By AUser 8th Jul 17, 3:04 PM
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    @angryparcel (was expecting quickreply to quote the message)

    This is nonsense, if we were in the stone age, yes, maybe. But we're in the 21st century with stock control and computers. The website shouldn't say they have them in stock and ready for 7 days delivery if they don't. This anyway is a pointless discussion that has nothing to do with what I asked.
    Last edited by AUser; 08-07-2017 at 3:07 PM.
    • AUser
    • By AUser 8th Jul 17, 3:06 PM
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    @wealdroam

    OK, if it's in their T&C then nothing I can do about it, but reasonably, if you order something they can't just deliver it 20 years later and expect the customer to accept it. 7 days is still kind of reasonable, but I'm surprised they are allowed even to do that.

    @powerful_Rog yeah, I really want those chairs, though

    So I'm guessing people find £10 acceptable from what I read, that's all I wanted to know.
    Last edited by AUser; 08-07-2017 at 3:10 PM.
    • powerful_Rogue
    • By powerful_Rogue 8th Jul 17, 3:09 PM
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    • 8th Jul 17, 3:09 PM
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    @powerful_Rog

    OK, if it's in their T&C then nothing I can do about it, but reasonably, if you order something they can't just deliver it 20 years later and expect the customer to accept it. 7 days is still kind of reasonable, but I'm surprised they are allowed even to do that.
    Originally posted by AUser
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    As already pointed out, the contract isn't formed until items are dispatched. If you're not happy, then cancel and buy elsewhere. Push homebase too far, and they must cancel your order anyway and you lose out on the generous 11% off they were offering as goodwill.
    Last edited by MSE ForumTeam5; 08-07-2017 at 10:29 PM.
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 8th Jul 17, 3:59 PM
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    There are 2 issues. The first is that if you don't specifically agree a date with a retailer at the time of ordering, they generally have up to 30 days to complete the order.

    If you do agree a date/make time of the essence at the time the contract is entered into and the retailer doesn't stick to that you have the right to cancel and/or the right to damages - damages are assessed on the basis of putting you into the same position you would have been in had the breach not happened (or as near as money can do it). You're entitled to your quantifiable losses but you also have a duty to mitigate those losses - to take reasonable steps to minimise them and not take unreasonable steps which increases your losses.

    You're not entitled to compensation merely because a breach of contract happens, only if you incur losses as a result of that breach. As you don't appear to have any losses, their £10 offer seems more than adequate.
    Last edited by MSE ForumTeam5; 08-07-2017 at 10:30 PM. Reason: Quoting deleted post
    Money doesn't solve poverty.....it creates it.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 8th Jul 17, 4:32 PM
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    @angryparcel (was expecting quickreply to quote the message)

    This is nonsense, if we were in the stone age, yes, maybe. But we're in the 21st century with stock control and computers. The website shouldn't say they have them in stock and ready for 7 days delivery if they don't. This anyway is a pointless discussion that has nothing to do with what I asked.
    Originally posted by AUser
    some dont use live stock control for online sales.

    yes you have stock control to say they have 5 units, but unless its a live stock control system then it wont delete from stock. Also if they get the stock direct from supplier then they wont have a link to supplier stock control. and wont pick things like this up
    Last edited by angryparcel; 08-07-2017 at 4:35 PM.
    • harrys dad
    • By harrys dad 8th Jul 17, 4:57 PM
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    If we have a rule here which says "be nice to new users" we also need one which says "new users must be nice".
    • societys child
    • By societys child 8th Jul 17, 5:20 PM
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    they offered £10 (on a £91 order) do you think it is fair or should I refuse and ask for more?
    I think it's far too much

    • Shaka_Zulu
    • By Shaka_Zulu 8th Jul 17, 9:40 PM
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    The OP is always free to try his luck in the courts and attempt to show these pesky retailers whats what.

    Please let us know how you get on.
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