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    • somegem
    • By somegem 7th Jul 17, 11:21 AM
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    10 year old with acne
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    • 7th Jul 17, 11:21 AM
    10 year old with acne 7th Jul 17 at 11:21 AM
    Hi, my 10 year old daughter has over the past month or 2 started with acne across her nose and cheeks.

    She did used to get the odd spot but now she has a cluster of them - red spots with yellow head.

    I presume it is caused by hormones - she is developing fast.

    My question is does anyone recommend anything to help them with - she uses a tea tree face wash presently.

    Thanks.
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    • avogadro
    • By avogadro 7th Jul 17, 1:18 PM
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    Cutting down or cutting out dairy products (especially milk and butter) may help. I think it is the hormones in the milk that exacerbate the problem.

    (Fairly sure I heard this on one of Dr Jessen's programmes on tv)
    • wondercollie
    • By wondercollie 7th Jul 17, 7:15 PM
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    If it's really acne and not just age related spots, she needs to see a doctor.

    My son had terrible acne. Tried all the shop products and nothing helped him. The doctor tried him on all the antibiotics and no results. Got him referred to the dermatologist who prescribed Acutane. He was on it for roughly a year. Cleared up his skin and he has a few pitting scars. Seven years later his skin is still wonderful.

    The thing is Acutane has had some bad press. When prescribe, monitored and used properly it's a life saver. My son was required to have regular blood work and see the dermatologist every six weeks for the first few months. His mood never altered. Girls have to either be on the pill or non-sexually active as pregnancy can not be chanced on this med. And yes, I know you have a 10 year old.

    But do your research. If in a few years, Acutane is the best option don't walk away from it. My son told me he should have went on it sooner! But you can't talk a teenager into anything. A friend who is a pharmacist told me if his child ever had severe acne he'd go for the Acutane over all the antibiotics GPs will try.
    • theoretica
    • By theoretica 7th Jul 17, 7:27 PM
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    Cutting down or cutting out dairy products (especially milk and butter) may help. I think it is the hormones in the milk that exacerbate the problem.

    (Fairly sure I heard this on one of Dr Jessen's programmes on tv)
    Originally posted by avogadro
    I had heard switching to organic milk - for the calcium without the hormones.
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
    • Carrot007
    • By Carrot007 7th Jul 17, 7:30 PM
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    Food had been completely debunked and is not a reason that has any credit these days.

    If it is bad enough then go to the doctors and get an appropriate prescription. I did in my youth, though fortunatly it was just on my back and not on my face. it worked great.
    • savingfortomorrow
    • By savingfortomorrow 7th Jul 17, 8:11 PM
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    Acne is starting younger. It would be a good idea to speak to an understanding gp. There are loads of creams that may help. Each child is different and many different treatments are available, it is best to let you gp guide you.
    • TheGardener
    • By TheGardener 9th Jul 17, 8:55 AM
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    As a family with experience of Roacutane (Isotretinoin) - although it can work wonders - it is very much a last resort 'nuclear' option and it is hard work to take and can impact significantly on health - you must be fully aware of its side effects before you go down that route. Girls have to enrol on a pregnancy prevention programme and take the 'full fat' pill (not the mini pill) and have monthly pregnancy tests regardless of whether they are sexually active. The side effects (cracked lips, hair loss, joint pain, fatigue to name a few)are hard work and I would not recommend anyone who is under 18 take it - but of course that's down to the consultants - this treatment is so strong, only consultant dermatologists can prescribe it, GP's can only make a referral. The medication was actually a cancer drug with an unexpected side effect of curing acne - the drug was modified to be used as an acne treatment but I can't overstate how challenging it can be to take despite its great results.

    Acne and teenage spots are horrible if you suffer badly from them but my advice is as others have said, a sympathetic GP. Good skin care routine and skin hygiene and NOT PICKING or squeezing the spots. Plenty of exercise and fresh air and a good diet all help but sadly there is no silver bullet at her age. It will pass though.
    Last edited by TheGardener; 09-07-2017 at 9:12 AM.
    • GwylimT
    • By GwylimT 9th Jul 17, 9:09 AM
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    Isotretinoin cannot be used in children under the age of 12 in the UK.

    It is more likely teenage skin rather than acne.

    A lot of people make the mistake of drying the skin out, but this actually traps dirt, so the skin does need to be well moisturised.

    What skin type does she have?

    What products is she using and how often?
    • wondercollie
    • By wondercollie 10th Jul 17, 4:47 AM
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    As a family with experience of Roacutane (Isotretinoin) - although it can work wonders - it is very much a last resort 'nuclear' option and it is hard work to take and can impact significantly on health - you must be fully aware of its side effects before you go down that route. Girls have to enrol on a pregnancy prevention programme and take the 'full fat' pill (not the mini pill) and have monthly pregnancy tests regardless of whether they are sexually active. The side effects (cracked lips, hair loss, joint pain, fatigue to name a few)are hard work and I would not recommend anyone who is under 18 take it - but of course that's down to the consultants - this treatment is so strong, only consultant dermatologists can prescribe it, GP's can only make a referral. The medication was actually a cancer drug with an unexpected side effect of curing acne - the drug was modified to be used as an acne treatment but I can't overstate how challenging it can be to take despite its great results.

    Acne and teenage spots are horrible if you suffer badly from them but my advice is as others have said, a sympathetic GP. Good skin care routine and skin hygiene and NOT PICKING or squeezing the spots. Plenty of exercise and fresh air and a good diet all help but sadly there is no silver bullet at her age. It will pass though.
    Originally posted by TheGardener
    My son had only the dry lips and good lip salves were his salvation. None of my acquaintances children suffered any of the side effects you mentioned.

    His dermatologist was wonderful, regular bloodwork and check ups on his moods.

    The drug has been demonized in America. It truly can help when prescribed and used properly.

    I mean who would have thought Thalidomide would ever be used again? But it is.
    • wondercollie
    • By wondercollie 11th Jul 17, 9:25 PM
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    It's used here in Canada once everything else has been tried.

    A friend that's a pharmacist said he would have no hesitation in having his child use it if the need arose.

    The US market had done most of the demonizing. Several families sued the makers for wrongful death when their children committed suicide and they decided the Accutane was the cause.

    Honestly, I worried about this as well but when my son was becoming withdrawn and we'd tried everything, our GP did the referral to a dermatologist. A lovely Dr who monitored my son on a regular basis. He calmed my fears over the US lawsuits.

    He's been off the drug now for five years. His skin is still beautiful and clear. He had the nerve to tell me he wishes he'd gone on it sooner and not wound up with few acne pitting scars he has. Like you can tell a teenager anything. It turned out a few of his friends in Cadets were also on it at the same time, so he didn't feel so alone.

    The thing that I found strange was that people use it and don't talk about it. My friend's daughter was on it the same time as my boy. Because her dermatologist required all female patients to be on birth control when using it and they are very RC they never discussed it until one day when I was picking up the prescription when out with my friend.
    Last edited by wondercollie; 11-07-2017 at 9:27 PM.
    • somegem
    • By somegem 12th Jul 17, 2:34 PM
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    Thanks all for the replies.

    She currently uses a tea tree face wash morning & night, I bought her a tea tree blemish stick which she has been applying after washing her face also (started this week)

    As from monday just gone we have cut out (most) dairy products - I just thought we could give this a week & see if it helps - she usually drinks lots & lots of milk - loves the stuff. I am not sure though how long if it helps at all we would need to test this for.

    If her skin hasn't settled down by next week I will get her a dr's appointment.

    She doesn't seem to have greasy or dry skin, the spots are a mixture of yellow head spots & blackheads - very angry red looking, they are also spreading up to her hairline now (although she doesn't yet get greasy hair).

    Thanks again for the replies.
    • cashewnut
    • By cashewnut 12th Jul 17, 7:01 PM
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    If you are removing dairy from her diet (completely unnecessary imo) make sure she is getting calcium from somewhere else!
    • sstevo19
    • By sstevo19 12th Jul 17, 9:14 PM
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    Is she using a moisturiser at all? Drying the skin out can make the problem worse. Definitely look to at a light moisturiser to help keep her skin hydrated, especially if your using Tea Tree products which can be quite drying.
    • somegem
    • By somegem 14th Jul 17, 10:52 AM
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    Just an update - can see a definite improvement this morning - less red looking.

    Maybe it is the diary after all ?! or combination of cutting out diary & using the tea tree blemish stick.

    Her skin dosen't seem overly dry so think will hold back on using a moisturiser for now - don't want to overload products on her skin yet.

    P.S. yes I agree cashewnut - I still need to find a way to get calcium into her.

    She is really missing milk - so we need to try some alternatives.
    • darkduck
    • By darkduck 24th Jul 17, 9:49 AM
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    I can advise cosmetics with salicylic and shikimic acid.
    • WibblyGirly
    • By WibblyGirly 28th Jul 17, 7:29 PM
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    There is a spot product by Vichy that I use http://www.boots.com/vichy-normaderm-hyaluspot-15ml
    I dab a little on the spot before bed and it gets rid of it pretty quickly.

    To add to the Roaccutane discussion, I had cystic acne that was awful and so embarrassing. I wish I had found out about this sooner. Took a year but got rid of the cysts. It was about 8 years ago now and my skin has more or less stayed clear except the odd spot and redness that won't go. It is strong, I had chapped lips, dry skin and occasionally chest pains that kind of felt like someone sitting on me. It's been linked to suicide but I think it helps so many more people than it harms and that those people inclined towards thoughts of that type shouldn't have been diagnosed it. They shouldn't ban it though as it was the only thing to work for me after countless antibiotics, topical treatments etc.
    • avogadro
    • By avogadro 28th Jul 17, 7:43 PM
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    Just an update - can see a definite improvement this morning - less red looking.

    Maybe it is the diary after all ?!
    Originally posted by somegem
    It's quite possible.

    http://www.clearskinforever.net/milk-acne-does-milk-cause-acne/

    But worth seeking the opinion of a GP or dermatologist.
    • supersaver1000
    • By supersaver1000 29th Jul 17, 3:42 PM
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    Hi Somegem, glad that you are seeing an improvement. My dd experienced acne, it was never really really bad but I'm aware it must have dented her confidence. We tried all the over the counter things and shied away from the GP as we'd heard people talk about some serious medications and about a lot of things that GPs give you that don't work. However, it started getting worse and so we went along to a private skin clinic and saw a GP who worked there, we got a free assessment. He was brilliant and explained that GPs now have access to all sorts of treatments for acne, he explained them and advised that we should go and see our own GP. Our own GP prescribed something called Duac which is a cream you put on once a day. There was an almost instant improvement and now beautiful clear skin, I wish we had gone to the GP much sooner and feel terrible I didn't take my daughter. I think I worried about wasting their time and was hopeful of finding our own solution (and spent a lot of money unnecessarily on face washes etc). We were also advised by the doctor at the private skin clinic to look at the website patient.co.uk as a really uptodate website and that's my go to site now for anything health related prior to seeing the GPs. (I find its always more productive to go prepared to a GP appointment). Hope your daughter's skin clears but just wanted to share my experience and say go to the doctor if you are unsure and get it sorted before they become teens. Best Wishes SS.
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