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    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 6th Jul 17, 6:22 PM
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    Air con down
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    Air con down 6th Jul 17 at 6:22 PM
    My wifes 3 1/2 year old (15,000 mile) Suzuki Swift air con died today - it now makes a grinding noise when run - what is this likely to be and cost ?
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    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 6th Jul 17, 6:39 PM
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    Might just need a regas, I've used the cool car franchise before, they do a regas and device for £60
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    Might just need a regas, I've used the cool car franchise before, they do a regas and device for £60
    Originally posted by wgl2014
    Not a mission of it just needing a regas if its making grinding noises.
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    • motorguy
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    My wifes 3 1/2 year old (15,000 mile) Suzuki Swift air con died today - it now makes a grinding noise when run - what is this likely to be and cost ?
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    If it has a Suzuki history, i'd be trying my Suzuki dealer to get Suzuki UK to pay it. It shouldnt have failed at that age / miles.
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    • wgl2014
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    • 6th Jul 17, 6:57 PM
    When my old Saab 9-3 air con played up it made some odd noises which could be described as grinding, it needed regassing and was fine after this.

    I do agree though that if something is kaput then it would be worth approaching Suzuki.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 6th Jul 17, 7:29 PM
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    If there's insufficient refrigerant pressure in the aircon system, then the compressor clutch simply won't engage - no grinding noises, it'll be the same as if it was turned off.

    If there's grinding noises, then I'd be more inclined to suspect belt tensioners (if it's a separate belt, which is unlikely on a modern car) or the compressor itself. If it's on the same serpentine belt as other ancillaries, then you DEFINITELY want to get it sorted before the belt gets thrown. If the water pump's on the same belt, then that could kill the engine if you ignore warning lights.

    You're outside warranty, though, so very much dependent on goodwill for any contribution from Suzuki Cars UK. With such a low mileage, the first thing they'll look at is whether the time-based servicing schedule has been kept up.
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 6th Jul 17, 7:30 PM
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    Might just need a regas, I've used the cool car franchise before, they do a regas and device for £60
    Originally posted by wgl2014
    We were planning on Suzuki's..
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    Do you still get cold air. If you do it could well be the alternator bearing rumbling when the air con clutch engages and changes the loading on the shared belt.
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    I had 3 visits thankfuly in warranty

    recgassed etc fault was a leaking air con pipe since replaced
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    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 7th Jul 17, 10:34 AM
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    Grinding may indicate a damaged condensor, which basically drops the AC oil all over the road and if left running will eventually destroy the now un-lubricated compressor.
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    • By cajef 7th Jul 17, 3:16 PM
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    Grinding may indicate a damaged condensor, which basically drops the AC oil all over the road and if left running will eventually destroy the now un-lubricated compressor.
    Originally posted by Strider590
    Eh! The gas runs through the condenser, if the condenser is damaged the gas is lost and the compressor clutch will not operate due to no pressure and the compressor will not run, so how will that destroy it?
    Last edited by cajef; 07-07-2017 at 3:21 PM.
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 7th Jul 17, 3:18 PM
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    There is a small amount of oil suspended in the refrigerant, though.
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    • By cajef 7th Jul 17, 3:25 PM
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    There is a small amount of oil suspended in the refrigerant, though.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Agreed but not enough to drop oil all over the road and destroy the compressor before the low pressure switch activates and the clutch does not operate.
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    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 7th Jul 17, 4:18 PM
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    You're outside warranty, though, so very much dependent on goodwill for any contribution from Suzuki Cars UK. With such a low mileage, the first thing they'll look at is whether the time-based servicing schedule has been kept up.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    It has been serviced by Suzuki main dealers every 12 months !!
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 12th Jul 17, 5:29 PM
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    Repressurised at a cost of £60 today
    They picked up the tyres as being 65 percent worn but with 6mm of tread left (average) this appears slightly alarming at 15000 miles with a very careful driver
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    • By takman 12th Jul 17, 5:51 PM
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    Repressurised at a cost of £60 today
    They picked up the tyres as being 65 percent worn but with 6mm of tread left (average) this appears slightly alarming at 15000 miles with a very careful driver
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    Tyre's usually have around 8mm of tread when new so having 6mm left after 15,000 miles is very good going. You won't need to replace the tyres for another 33,000 miles if you continue with that trend.

    I have no idea how they can say they are 65% worn with 6mm of tread left. If you use 65% of 8mm then you would only have 2.8mm left. Even if they use 3mm as the minimum tread then at 6mm they would only be 40% worn.

    So the figures so seem a bit strange but it doesn't sound to me that you need to worry about how your tyres are wearing.
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