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    • Anne_Marie
    • By Anne_Marie 30th Jun 17, 3:53 PM
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    MSE showing as dangerous in Google Chrome
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    • 30th Jun 17, 3:53 PM
    MSE showing as dangerous in Google Chrome 30th Jun 17 at 3:53 PM
    Just a heads up that I am getting a warning from Google Chrome reporting this as a deceptive site and that details are not secure.

    Unfortunately unable to copy and paste the full warning, but the gist is:-
    Deceptive site ahead.
    Attackers on c95735.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com may trick you into something dangerous etc etc

    Google Safe Browsing recently detected phishing on c95735.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com etc. etc.

    Firefox reports that logins could be compromised.

    Safari doesn't show any problems that I can see.
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    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 30th Jun 17, 7:56 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 7:56 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 7:56 PM
    This may or not be related, but I've been getting "Your connection to this site is not secure" when I click on the "i" symbol next to the site address in Chrome 59.0.3071.115 (64-bit version) ever since the last update took my system to that version.

    Screenshot here:

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    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 30th Jun 17, 8:14 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 8:14 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 8:14 PM
    How many threads do we have on this now..?
    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 30th Jun 17, 9:46 PM
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    • #4
    • 30th Jun 17, 9:46 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 9:46 PM
    Well, the official one that MSE Andrea posted is now on page 2, so it obviously can't be that important an issue.
    Always ask yourself one question: What would Gibbs do?
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    • Anne_Marie
    • By Anne_Marie 1st Jul 17, 4:34 AM
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    • 1st Jul 17, 4:34 AM
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    • 1st Jul 17, 4:34 AM
    How many threads do we have on this now..?
    Originally posted by pogofish
    I hadn't seen any other threads regarding my issue, but I did have a quick check.
    I did see the other thread which Mothballs has also posted on. However, I have not seen a thread regarding the huge full page red google chrome warning, which I had yesterday afternoon, warning of unsafe site.
    The red page that I had yesterday is now gone this morning, but the "not secure" in forum url is still there, as per the other thread.
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5595834
    • Jabba_flabba
    • By Jabba_flabba 1st Jul 17, 12:33 PM
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    • 1st Jul 17, 12:33 PM
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    • 1st Jul 17, 12:33 PM
    Anne_Marie's right, this is a separate problem from the "no SSL issue" that there are a few threads on.

    Anne_Marie: what you've seen is Google Chrome's Safe Browsing feature. Take a look at https://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/us/security/news/cybercrime-and-digital-threats/google-now-warns-against-social-engineering-content

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/ is pulling its Museo Slab web fonts from https://moneysavingexpert.scdn3.secure.raxcdn.com
    ..but I can't see any references to the particular subdomain rackcdn.com URL you mention.

    I guess it's either gone away because something changed at the site end, or perhaps your Chrome updated itself between when you reported the problem and now, yielding slightly more relaxed deception detection.

    I believe the Chrome (v59) setting that pertains to Safe browsing is under 3 dots > Settings > Advanced > Privacy & Security > Protect you and your device from dangerous sites (toggle). For me it was off by default, but turning it on doesn't yield me the big red screen when I visit http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/

    As for the "Not secure" / "Your connection to this site is not secure" that's totally to be expected at the moment. For interest, the original thread I started on this dates to the back end of last year:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5567176
    • Anne_Marie
    • By Anne_Marie 1st Jul 17, 7:39 PM
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    • 1st Jul 17, 7:39 PM
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    • 1st Jul 17, 7:39 PM
    Thanks for all the detail there Jabba_flabba. Will have a look at those links.

    I did know that the issue I had was different to that already reported.

    Thought that I had better report it, as not everyone would go through checking through various browsers to check and would just not visit this site with such a warning.

    Anyway, all good with me now. Thanks for taking the time to reply with useful information.

    How many threads do we have on this now..?
    Originally posted by pogofish
    One, as far as I know, unless you know of others, and you can point me in the right direction.
    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 4th Jul 17, 12:13 PM
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    • 4th Jul 17, 12:13 PM
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    Hi Anne_Marie

    I'm sorry for the delay replying.

    Are you (or anyone else) still seeing this message?

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    • Frogletina
    • By Frogletina 4th Jul 17, 12:58 PM
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    • 4th Jul 17, 12:58 PM

    I believe the Chrome (v59) setting that pertains to Safe browsing is under 3 dots > Settings > Advanced > Privacy & Security > Protect you and your device from dangerous sites (toggle). For me it was off by default, but turning it on doesn't yield me the big red screen when I visit http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/
    Originally posted by Jabba_flabba
    I had this issue and the setting was set at on. I amended the setting to off and was then able to get onto this site

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    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 4th Jul 17, 1:17 PM
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    Thanks Frogletina!

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    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 4th Jul 17, 1:32 PM
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    I'm still getting the "i" symbol in the address bar and I don't want to turn the setting off.
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    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 4th Jul 17, 1:53 PM
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    Thanks Mothballswallet!

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    • Frogletina
    • By Frogletina 4th Jul 17, 2:17 PM
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    I'm still getting the i symbol too
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    • Jabba_flabba
    • By Jabba_flabba 5th Jul 17, 8:45 PM
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    I'm still getting the "i" symbol in the address bar and I don't want to turn the setting off.
    Originally posted by MothballsWallet
    1/ You'll see the (i) Not secure message to the left of the URL bar in Chrome just so long as this website is served unencrypted. There's nothing you can do about this. It's all part of Google's attempt to draw attention to sites that continue to serve plain http, and to encourage adoption of SSL.

    2/ Leaving Chrome's Safe Browsing setting enabled is the right thing to do, even if disabling it appears to fix the big red warning page that Anne_Marie was seeing. Disabling it is disabling a browser security feature, and may make your browser vulnerable to deception attempts.
    • Jabba_flabba
    • By Jabba_flabba 5th Jul 17, 8:51 PM
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    I had this issue and the setting was set at on. I amended the setting to off and was then able to get onto this site
    Originally posted by Frogletina
    That sounds as expected.

    I'd advise turning the setting back on and seeing if you can access this site now without hitting the big red warning page (things may have changed since you originally tried it). Ideally you want to leave this setting on.

    I can reach http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com just fine with the setting turned on.
    • Jabba_flabba
    • By Jabba_flabba 5th Jul 17, 9:09 PM
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    A bit of digging shows that this site is currently okay:

    http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=forums.moneysavingexpert.com

    ...meaning, right now, safe browsing enabled Chrome users should be able to reach this site (in theory!)
    • Frogletina
    • By Frogletina 6th Jul 17, 10:34 AM
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    That sounds as expected.

    I'd advise turning the setting back on and seeing if you can access this site now without hitting the big red warning page (things may have changed since you originally tried it). Ideally you want to leave this setting on.

    I can reach http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com just fine with the setting turned on.
    Originally posted by Jabba_flabba
    Hi Jabba

    I have turned it back on and I'm not getting the warning now

    thanks for your advice

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    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 8th Jul 17, 1:59 PM
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    1/ You'll see the (i) Not secure message to the left of the URL bar in Chrome just so long as this website is served unencrypted. There's nothing you can do about this. It's all part of Google's attempt to draw attention to sites that continue to serve plain http, and to encourage adoption of SSL.

    2/ Leaving Chrome's Safe Browsing setting enabled is the right thing to do, even if disabling it appears to fix the big red warning page that Anne_Marie was seeing. Disabling it is disabling a browser security feature, and may make your browser vulnerable to deception attempts.
    Originally posted by Jabba_flabba
    Thank you - we shouldn't have to turn a browser security feature off to access a web page because the people running it haven't sorted out the SSL adoption.
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    • Jabba_flabba
    • By Jabba_flabba 8th Jul 17, 7:13 PM
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    Thank you - we shouldn't have to turn a browser security feature off to access a web page because the people running it haven't sorted out the SSL adoption.
    Originally posted by MothballsWallet
    You're welcome, though I believe you're conflating two issues here:

    The Safe Browsing feature of Chrome is about preventing you from reaching sites that may have been hijacked by malware, code injection, that sort of thing.

    The lack SSL is about the privacy that you have - or in this case don't have - when you connect from your web browser to this site. Think of it like someone being able to listen in on your phone conversation.
    • colinw
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    The only dangerous thing on this site is my music taste
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