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    • SuperAllyB
    • By SuperAllyB 30th Jun 17, 9:03 AM
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    SIM for Florida holiday
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    • 30th Jun 17, 9:03 AM
    SIM for Florida holiday 30th Jun 17 at 9:03 AM
    Our family have just booked a fortnight's holiday in Orlando.

    We are with PlusNet mobile and there rates for US don't seem very competitive.
    One daughter is a typical modern teenager who gets anxiety issues if without 3g signal, or phone charge drops below 50%.

    All our phones are SIM free - 2xMotoG5, iPhone 5S and iPhone7.

    Thinking of getting PAYG Feel at Home sims from 3, but wondered if we would be better getting a SIM out there - just looking for advice on where to start looking.
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    • Frozen_up_north
    • By Frozen_up_north 30th Jun 17, 10:29 AM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 10:29 AM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 10:29 AM
    If you just want to call each other, or keep in touch with friends back in the UK, a Three PAYG will be fine. Calling USA numbers will cost only 3p/min too.

    For some bizarre reason, contract customers are ripped off big style on Three when making international calls, PAYG is far cheaper! On contract, USA calls are 56.2p/min, or 3p/min on PAYG
    • Heng Leng
    • By Heng Leng 30th Jun 17, 12:09 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 12:09 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 12:09 PM
    Why not just use wi-fi for calls and messages?
    There is free wi-fi practically everywhere in Orlando.
    • SuperAllyB
    • By SuperAllyB 30th Jun 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 12:16 PM
    Why not just use wi-fi for calls and messages?
    There is free wi-fi practically everywhere in Orlando.
    Originally posted by Heng Leng
    That's what I was hoping. Never been before so didn't want to be caught out
    • Frozen_up_north
    • By Frozen_up_north 30th Jun 17, 2:06 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 2:06 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 2:06 PM
    Why not just use wi-fi for calls and messages?
    There is free wi-fi practically everywhere in Orlando.
    Originally posted by Heng Leng
    Except Plusnet will rip them off big style for receiving or making calls.
    Costs are sky high at £8/MB for data, 70p/min to receive calls and £1.30/min to make both UK and USA calls.

    I would take the safe option of using Three PAYG SIMs, no charge to receive calls, 3p per min to call UK or USA numbers.
    • mrcamp
    • By mrcamp 30th Jun 17, 4:01 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 4:01 PM
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    • 30th Jun 17, 4:01 PM
    As already mentioned, 3 payg sims are certainly a good option. OTOH, due to the availability of free WiFi all over the place, calling and texting via an app such as whatsapp is also another option.
    • Heng Leng
    • By Heng Leng 3rd Jul 17, 11:26 AM
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    • 3rd Jul 17, 11:26 AM
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    • 3rd Jul 17, 11:26 AM
    Except Plusnet will rip them off big style for receiving or making calls.
    Costs are sky high at £8/MB for data, 70p/min to receive calls and £1.30/min to make both UK and USA calls.

    I would take the safe option of using Three PAYG SIMs, no charge to receive calls, 3p per min to call UK or USA numbers.
    Originally posted by Frozen_up_north
    I'm not suggesting they use Plusnet for anything, so unsure why their rates are relevant. Leave the phone on airplane mode with the wifi on during the holiday.
    • boatman
    • By boatman 5th Jul 17, 10:58 AM
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    • 5th Jul 17, 10:58 AM
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    • 5th Jul 17, 10:58 AM
    With 3, don't you have to buy a bundle to use payg abroad, or has it now changed? The other option is to buy a 3 data sim and stick some credit on it.
    I guess the 321 rates will work in EU without a bundle, but not the rest of the world, is this right?
    Last edited by boatman; 05-07-2017 at 11:06 AM. Reason: kk
    • ahxcjb
    • By ahxcjb 5th Jul 17, 3:44 PM
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    • 5th Jul 17, 3:44 PM
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    • 5th Jul 17, 3:44 PM
    Our family have just booked a fortnight's holiday in Orlando.

    We are with PlusNet mobile and there rates for US don't seem very competitive.
    One daughter is a typical modern teenager who gets anxiety issues if without 3g signal, or phone charge drops below 50%.

    All our phones are SIM free - 2xMotoG5, iPhone 5S and iPhone7.

    Thinking of getting PAYG Feel at Home sims from 3, but wondered if we would be better getting a SIM out there - just looking for advice on where to start looking.
    Originally posted by SuperAllyB
    Overlooking your decision to holiday in Florida (of all the beautiful places to visit in the US, you chose Orlando...yuk!) I can probably help you out with prepaid options here in the US.

    Firstly, junk Plusnet. They are garbage. Certainly don't use them abroad. 3 UK offer the most competitive international roaming options, but personally, I would just purchase a local SIM when here.

    I've listed some options below.

    You can only use ATT or T-Mobile as the other providers (Sprint [useless] or Verizon require you to have a device registered against their database)

    1. ATT GoPhone (soon to be ATT Prepaid) - https://www.att.com/gophone/plans.html

    $35 gets you 1GB of data;
    $45 gets you 6GB of data;
    $65 gets you 'unlimited' data but with a 3Mbps cap.

    Personally, I think the $45 plan offers the best value, especially as you can purchase another 3 GB for $20.

    2. T-Mobile Prepaid - https://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans

    $45 gets you 4GB of data;
    $55 get you 6GB of data;
    $75 gets you unlimited data.

    Please NB, the $45 & $55 T-Mobile plans don't count any music streaming usage against your data bucket.

    You can walk into any ATT or T-Mobile store and take out these 30 day plans.

    You could also consider Cricket Wireless (owned by ATT), but you would need to make sure you're near a Cricket Wireless store (or Gamestop, which stocks the SIMs) to make this worth your while. Speeds are capped at 8Mbps, which makes it a bit of a non starter as far as I'm concerned.

    Also note, T-Mobile uses LTE Bands 2, 4 (mid band) and 12 (low band). Your iPhone 7 supports these, but the 5S only supports 2 & 4 meaning your indoor coverage may suffer somewhat. ATT uses LTE bands 2,4,5 and 17. The 5S supports all of those. I couldn't find specs for the G5 European model, but I doubt it will support band 12 or 17. Just something to bear in mind.

    Enjoy the humidity and 35c temperatures in Florida.
    Last edited by ahxcjb; 05-07-2017 at 3:54 PM.
    • Heng Leng
    • By Heng Leng 5th Jul 17, 5:27 PM
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    Overlooking your decision to holiday in Florida (of all the beautiful places to visit in the US, you chose Orlando...yuk!) I can probably help you out with prepaid options here in the US.

    Enjoy the humidity and 35c temperatures in Florida.
    Originally posted by ahxcjb
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with Orlando.
    However, I wouldn't go just now personally
    • ahxcjb
    • By ahxcjb 5th Jul 17, 5:44 PM
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    There is everything wrong with Orlando. Ever been outside the Disney resort?

    Only the British are keen to visit the complete !!!! hole that is Orlando. They think Disneyworld is representative of the US. As a dual citizen of both countries, it pains me to see my fellow countrymen acting so naively.
    Last edited by ahxcjb; 05-07-2017 at 6:04 PM.
    • rhysadams
    • By rhysadams 6th Jul 17, 12:21 PM
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    I use Three in the States, its brilliant. Get the bolt on and you can use the data in your iPad or iPhone.
    • SuperAllyB
    • By SuperAllyB 6th Jul 17, 11:23 PM
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    There is everything wrong with Orlando. Ever been outside the Disney resort?

    Only the British are keen to visit the complete !!!! hole that is Orlando. They think Disneyworld is representative of the US. As a dual citizen of both countries, it pains me to see my fellow countrymen acting so naively.
    Originally posted by ahxcjb
    You may well be right and I would love to be in a position to see more of it in the future. My wife and I feel that our family are at the right age to enjoy (quite possibly once in a lifetime) the Disney experience.
    • Heng Leng
    • By Heng Leng 7th Jul 17, 2:18 PM
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    There is everything wrong with Orlando. Ever been outside the Disney resort?

    Only the British are keen to visit the complete !!!! hole that is Orlando. They think Disneyworld is representative of the US. As a dual citizen of both countries, it pains me to see my fellow countrymen acting so naively.
    Originally posted by ahxcjb
    I haven't been to Disney since I was 13!
    The US is full of poverty, guns and no universal healthcare.

    That said, when I go to Florida, I switch off my brain and enjoy relaxing, eating and swimming.

    Smokey bones, Golden Corral and Panera bread are all good.
    If you need to food shop, Publix or Target are ok.
    • ahxcjb
    • By ahxcjb 7th Jul 17, 5:41 PM
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    The US is full of poverty, guns and no universal healthcare.
    Very very true.
    • d123
    • By d123 7th Jul 17, 7:41 PM
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    3 UK offer the most competitive international roaming options
    Originally posted by ahxcjb
    With the new EE and Vodafone roaming plans I think you'll find people disagreeing with that statement...

    If I was going roaming and wanted a full decent service it would be with an EE Max plan nowadays.
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    • mrcamp
    • By mrcamp 7th Jul 17, 7:57 PM
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    Ok. Just stay away from the US then, and chill in your own country that does not have all these bad things.

    The US is full of poverty, guns and no universal healthcare.
    .
    Originally posted by Heng Leng
    • ahxcjb
    • By ahxcjb 7th Jul 17, 8:57 PM
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    With the new EE and Vodafone roaming plans I think you'll find people disagreeing with that statement...
    Given they've only just recently been _forced_ to do it, I doubt many will. 3 have carved a niche for them with international roaming, and the perception they have created will take a long time for other operators to overcome.

    If I was going roaming and wanted a full decent service it would be with an EE Max plan nowadays.
    Using EE in the UK for 'full decent service' I can entirely understand; they're the only network that appears to be bringing LTE-A technologies to customers. However, for roaming? No, I don't agree, for the main reason that the networks they have roaming agreements with are going to be exactly the same as 3 (and others) do. It literally makes no difference.
    • d123
    • By d123 7th Jul 17, 10:25 PM
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    Given they've only just recently been _forced_ to do it, I doubt many will.
    Originally posted by ahxcjb
    Interesting, could you explain how they were "_forced_" to offer full speed 4G roaming including tethering in the USA? (which is what this thread is about)




    No, I don't agree, for the main reason that the networks they have roaming agreements with are going to be exactly the same as 3 (and others) do. It literally makes no difference.
    Originally posted by ahxcjb
    Maybe a little research is in order? Have a look what Three offers and what EE and Vodafone offer...
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    • ahxcjb
    • By ahxcjb 8th Jul 17, 12:50 AM
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    nteresting, could you explain how they were "_forced_" to offer full speed 4G roaming including tethering in the USA? (which is what this thread is about)
    Easy.

    1. New EU law;
    2. 3 has forced other carriers to offer similar non EU options.

    maybe a little research is in order
    I suspect I'm the only one on this board that has requisite technical knowledge to understand the complexities of running a successful LTE network.

    To help you out; only EE has LTE spectrum at low, mid and high band.

    The rest have a mediocre allocation at mainly low band (of which they have not even half the allocation of EE) with Vodafone owning only high band (completely useless outside of heavily built up areas).

    Let me know when your 'research' is complete.
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