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    • vicki84
    • By vicki84 20th Jun 17, 8:26 AM
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    vicki84
    PIP Assessors Report
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    • 20th Jun 17, 8:26 AM
    PIP Assessors Report 20th Jun 17 at 8:26 AM
    Hi

    I have received a copy of my Capita assessors report I am still waiting for a decision. Overall I am very happy but there is one section that I am confused with.
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    • Alice Holt
    • By Alice Holt 1st Jul 17, 2:49 PM
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    Alice Holt
    I will upload that section of my letter when I am at work on Monday. It basically says I can manage my own medication because I use a pill box.........
    Originally posted by vicki84
    That bit in itself is wrong!
    A pill box is classified as an aid and the use of one (other than for convenience) should score a point.

    This from the PIP assessment guide:

    "Activity 3 – Managing therapy or monitoring a health condition
    This activity considers a claimant’s ability to:
    (i) appropriately take medications in a domestic setting that are
    prescribed or recommended by a registered doctor, nurse or
    pharmacist;
    (ii) monitor and detect changes in a health condition; and
    (iii) manage therapeutic activities that are carried out in a domestic setting
    that are prescribed or recommended by a registered doctor, nurse,
    pharmacist or healthcare professional regulated by the Health
    Professions Council.

    The outcome of this activity is taking the medication or completing the
    recommended therapy as prescribed / recommended, without which the
    claimant’s health is likely to deteriorate.

    Notes:
    Managing medication means the ability to take prescribed medication in
    the correct way and at the right time.
    Monitoring a health condition or recognising significant changes means
    the ability to detect changes in the condition and take corrective action, as
    advised by a healthcare professional. Note that ‘keeping an eye’ on how a
    person is doing does not count as monitoring, unless the person is
    monitoring a specific parameter under medical advice and is implementing
    treatment modifications to prevent deterioration. Asking someone how
    they are will not meet the criteria unless there is a medical reason for
    expecting a change, a defined sign of deterioration and an advised action
    plan.
    This activity takes into account the administration of medication or therapy
    irrespective of who delivers it,
    and includes delivery by healthcare
    professionals, such as district or community psychiatric nurses. It only
    applies to medication/therapy delivered in the home environment i.e.
    where the claimant lives (and may include care homes), that has
    been prescribed/recommended by a registered healthcare
    professional
    or pharmacist.
    Examples of prescribed or recommended medication include tablets,
    inhalers, creams, suppositories and enemas. Therapies could include
    domiciliary dialysis, nebulisers and exercise regimes to prevent
    complications,
    such as contractures. Whilst medications and therapies do
    not necessarily have to be prescribed, there must be a consensus of
    medical opinion that supports their use in treatment of the condition,
    hence the necessity for it at least to be recommended by a registered
    healthcare professional
    or pharmacist.
    Descriptors C – F needs supervision, prompting or assistance to be able
    to manage therapy apply to the duration of the supervision, prompting or
    assistance and not the duration of the therapy. For example if
    compression bandaging is worn 24 hours a day for venous insufficiency,
    the time spent by another person applying the bandaging is counted, not
    the time the bandages are worn.
    For the purpose of this activity, the ‘majority of days’ test does not require
    the individual to actually be receiving therapy on the majority of days in a
    year. However, the descriptor would still need to accurately describe the
    claimant’s circumstances on a majority of days – i.e. on a majority of days
    the statement about how much support an individual needs a week must
    be true.
    For example, if a claimant needs assistance to undergo home
    dialysis for three hours on Monday and Friday, they would not actually be
    receiving therapy on the majority of days in a year. However, the statement
    that they need ‘assistance to be able to manage therapy that takes more
    than 3.5 but no more than 7 hours a week’ would still apply, as it
    accurately describes the level of support needed in a week."


    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/547146/pip-assessment-guide.pdf Page 104.

    Vicki - if you do decide to appeal, you could use this info (I've tried to put the important bits in bold) in your appeal. See also my post at 28. Getting a letter from your physio (as a healthcare professional) will be important.
    • vicki84
    • By vicki84 1st Jul 17, 9:15 PM
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    vicki84
    Thanks my physio refused to write a letter
    • Oddjob
    • By Oddjob 17th Jul 17, 12:02 PM
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    Oddjob
    Thanks my physio refused to write a letter
    Originally posted by vicki84
    Not the same as your case but I am awaiting a decision from a f2f assessment last Monday. I asked my physio if they would write me a letter about my osteoarthritis or at least give me a copy of the notes they had written but they refused, saying its normally the GP that is asked, yet the physios see more of how the disability affects you. It doesn't seem fair.
    • Muttleythefrog
    • By Muttleythefrog 27th Jul 17, 3:08 AM
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    Muttleythefrog
    I presume time has just about expired to ask for appeal... sad to revisit this case and find out it got even worse from a POV of justice. Can't win em all I guess. Hopefully you get more joy at any re-assessment in future.
    Last edited by Muttleythefrog; 27-07-2017 at 3:10 AM.
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