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    • _Fiinch
    • By _Fiinch 19th Jun 17, 6:02 PM
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    Parking Fine For Staying Too Long
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:02 PM
    Parking Fine For Staying Too Long 19th Jun 17 at 6:02 PM
    Hello all,

    I received a 'Parking Charge Notice' today from a retail park car park. Moorgate Retail Park in Bury to be exact. Admittedly, I stayed nearly 2 hours over the allowed time but I've read that these aren't backed by law. When I went to the car park, I went to the KFC, then drove to the other section of the car park to do some shopping and to get my car sorted at the Halfords. However, this journey from the KFC to the Halfords isn't seen by the cameras so as far as they're aware I went in and parked for 4 hours. £60 is a lot to pay and I'd much rather not pay it if I can get away with it. So what do I do, do I pay up or do I let it slide? After all, I've read that these aren't enforced by law and simply just invoices with no payment deadline.

    All help appreciated, thanks!
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 19th Jun 17, 6:09 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:09 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:09 PM
    Your​ next step (in fact the step before posting) is to familiarise yourself with the process you are caught up in. Advice on how to deal with this is in the newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum (you are politely asked to do this before starting a new thread).

    We can't deal with 30-40 cases every day, all the same, like this. That's why we have the sticky thread.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Redx
    • By Redx 19th Jun 17, 6:13 PM
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    • #3
    • 19th Jun 17, 6:13 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:13 PM
    whatever you have read is considered FAKE NEWS

    read that NEWBIES sticky thread and follow the procedures in there

    also google BARRY BEAVIS who also thought like you , he lost 3 times in court and the last time was at the SUPREME COURT in London, about 20 months ago

    then decide if it cannot be enforced legally (it can , ask BARRY)

    the payment deadline is 6 years by the way

    that is the time period the PPC has to issue an MCOL in the small claims court (google it) - this is what happened to barry beavis

    so please gen up properly and dont believe the twaddle you have read so far

    covfefe ?
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 19th Jun 17, 6:44 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:44 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:44 PM
    and to get my car sorted at the Halfords.
    from that it appears that there is a Halfords autocentre on the retail park, of which you used to get your car sorted.
    so you have Visit 1, KFC
    Halfords autocentre to get some work done to your car
    Visit 2 back into the car park.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • _Fiinch
    • By _Fiinch 19th Jun 17, 6:52 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:52 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:52 PM
    Sort of yeah, however, the KFC and Halford's auto centre are two different sections of the same car park and so the enterence camera has seen me go in but none of the cameras could see the journey from KFC to Halfords, then the exit camera saw me leaving 4 hours after.

    Cheers
    • _Fiinch
    • By _Fiinch 19th Jun 17, 6:54 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:54 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:54 PM
    Your​ next step (in fact the step before posting) is to familiarise yourself with the process you are caught up in. Advice on how to deal with this is in the newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum (you are politely asked to do this before starting a new thread).

    We can't deal with 30-40 cases every day, all the same, like this. That's why we have the sticky thread.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    I had a look on the sticky thread on how to appeal but I'm unsure on whether it's advisory for this given the length by which I overstayed.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 19th Jun 17, 6:56 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:56 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 6:56 PM
    Circumstances don't matter. The appeal is one-size-fits-all, to get a POPLA code if it's a BPA firm.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Redx
    • By Redx 19th Jun 17, 7:02 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 7:02 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 7:02 PM
    as above (think its PE or SMART on that site ?)
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • _Fiinch
    • By _Fiinch 19th Jun 17, 8:53 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 8:53 PM
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    • 19th Jun 17, 8:53 PM
    PE on the site, BPA are also on the list lapping up some credit for being arses. If I appeal and then lose will the cost go up to £100 or stay at £60?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 19th Jun 17, 8:58 PM
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    Costs? What costs? Why not just read the forum. All cases are the same, all PCNs are the same. The 'discount' is a bribe not to appeal and the charge is in fact £100. And almost no-one pays it here.

    You haven't even said whether your PCN is a 'POFA' one of not, received within 15 days? A section about the POFA 2012 on the back?
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 19th Jun 17, 11:04 PM
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    You should also be complaining to the landowner, if,a you said your vehicle was in to be serviced then it was not parked - but being worked on.
    also a complaint to Halfords wouldnt go amiss.

    Another aspect could be a data protection act breach, as if you vehicle was being worked on it effectively made two trips to the car park
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
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