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    • avogadro
    • By avogadro 17th Jun 17, 7:29 PM
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    Chancellor Kohl has died, aged 87
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    • 17th Jun 17, 7:29 PM
    Chancellor Kohl has died, aged 87 17th Jun 17 at 7:29 PM
    Possibly this has gone under the radar somewhat, due to other pressing news stories here. Those of us old enough to remember the fall of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany will remember Chancellor Kohl

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40307918

    I can recall a teacher at school saying she did not think the Wall would come down in our lifetime. 1989 was a remarkable year.
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    • Tipsntreats
    • By Tipsntreats 17th Jun 17, 7:37 PM
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    I remember it, and you are quite right to pay tribute IMO.
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    • Wizard of Id
    • By Wizard of Id 17th Jun 17, 8:28 PM
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    Saw this in the news yesterday, he was a great statesman in his time and heads above anything Europe has to offer now rip.
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    • Dreamnine
    • By Dreamnine 17th Jun 17, 8:59 PM
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    I always confused Helmut Kohl with Helmut S.c.h.m.i.d.t.
    • zagubov
    • By zagubov 18th Jun 17, 1:28 AM
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    In the 80s, nobody believed the wall would come down. The Eastern Bloc felt it would last as long as the pyramids.

    Anybody who said they weren't surprised at the fall of the wall was talking through their hat.
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    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 18th Jun 17, 10:32 AM
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    • 18th Jun 17, 10:32 AM
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    • 18th Jun 17, 10:32 AM
    I'm glad the wall came down - within 7 years, the Russian government took Mrs MbW's home city off the "restricted" travel list.

    If that hadn't happened, I'd never have had the chance to meet her.
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    • ScarletMarble
    • By ScarletMarble 18th Jun 17, 11:02 AM
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    • 18th Jun 17, 11:02 AM
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    • 18th Jun 17, 11:02 AM
    RIP Mr Cabbage (Kohl is German for cabbage)
    • avogadro
    • By avogadro 18th Jun 17, 2:31 PM
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    In the 80s, nobody believed the wall would come down. The Eastern Bloc felt it would last as long as the pyramids.

    Anybody who said they weren't surprised at the fall of the wall was talking through their hat.
    Originally posted by zagubov
    I get a strange feeling of nostalgia when I recall visiting West Germany when I was a teenager. Bonn was the capital. It would have been interesting to see the Berlin Wall, but west Berlin being an 'island' within a communist state, it required much more planning and documentation to get there. My friend saw it, and has some photographs.
    • zagubov
    • By zagubov 18th Jun 17, 3:02 PM
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    • 18th Jun 17, 3:02 PM
    I get a strange feeling of nostalgia when I recall visiting West Germany when I was a teenager. Bonn was the capital. It would have been interesting to see the Berlin Wall, but west Berlin being an 'island' within a communist state, it required much more planning and documentation to get there. My friend saw it, and has some photographs.
    Originally posted by avogadro
    I went to Berlin a year after reunification. You could tell by the brands of goods in the shops and the signage and street furniture how different the two halves still were.

    What was odd was being in a NATO country occupied by Warsaw Pact troops. While we were there there was an attempted coup in the Soviet Union which was trying to re-establish communist control.

    A train from Moscow arrived in Berlin packed with relieved-looking Aussie backpackers who were glad to have got out of there safely.
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