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    • Yeahwbu
    • By Yeahwbu 15th Jun 17, 10:25 PM
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    Help!
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    • 15th Jun 17, 10:25 PM
    Help! 15th Jun 17 at 10:25 PM
    Hi,
    I want to Study dog grooming level 2 & 3 City and Guilds certificate. The course is offered many places in dog grooming salons but costs around £4500. Does anyone know if I can get funding or would I have to take out an loan?
    Many thanks!
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    • Pixie5740
    • By Pixie5740 15th Jun 17, 10:38 PM
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    http://www.cityandguilds.com/delivering-our-qualifications/funding
    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds nought and six, result misery.
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 15th Jun 17, 10:40 PM
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    • #3
    • 15th Jun 17, 10:40 PM
    Hi,
    I want to Study dog grooming level 2 & 3 City and Guilds certificate. The course is offered many places in dog grooming salons but costs around £4500. Does anyone know if I can get funding or would I have to take out an loan?
    Many thanks!
    Originally posted by Yeahwbu
    Ask re finance at the local college offering the course.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • Yeahwbu
    • By Yeahwbu 15th Jun 17, 10:54 PM
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    • 15th Jun 17, 10:54 PM
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    • 15th Jun 17, 10:54 PM
    It's not an college, it's an grooming salon that offer an City of guilds qualification?
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 15th Jun 17, 11:16 PM
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    • 15th Jun 17, 11:16 PM
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    • 15th Jun 17, 11:16 PM
    It's not an college, it's an grooming salon that offer an City of guilds qualification?
    Originally posted by Yeahwbu
    Yes you did say that.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • jonesMUFCforever
    • By jonesMUFCforever 15th Jun 17, 11:28 PM
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    Waste of time and money - if you haven't got it to throw away please don't borrow it for this.
    What goes around - comes around
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    • Caz3121
    • By Caz3121 16th Jun 17, 5:57 AM
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    • 16th Jun 17, 5:57 AM
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    • 16th Jun 17, 5:57 AM
    Does anyone know if I can get funding or would I have to take out an loan?
    Originally posted by Yeahwbu
    what about saving and doing the course after you have saved the money to fund it?
    • PeacefulWaters
    • By PeacefulWaters 16th Jun 17, 10:42 AM
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    what about saving and doing the course after you have saved the money to fund it?
    Originally posted by Caz3121
    Radical thinking!
    • Caroline_a
    • By Caroline_a 16th Jun 17, 11:04 AM
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    • 16th Jun 17, 11:04 AM
    I would think that the salon will have some link with a local college. I would ask them. Also I disagree with the person who said it's a waste of money - the pet industry is positively booming at the moment, people spend huge amounts of money on their animals.

    Will there be a job at the end of it in the salon, OP?
    • Nearlyold
    • By Nearlyold 16th Jun 17, 8:21 PM
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    I would think that the salon will have some link with a local college. I would ask them. Also I disagree with the person who said it's a waste of money - the pet industry is positively booming at the moment, people spend huge amounts of money on their animals.

    Will there be a job at the end of it in the salon, OP?
    Originally posted by Caroline_a
    Agreed If the course is good and the OP is good at the job it should not be a waste of money. There is a one woman dog grooming place just up the road from us (she is one of quite a few in our area) she works solidly all day 5 days a week and currently has no vacancies for new customers.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 16th Jun 17, 9:08 PM
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    Have a word with local kennels and vet's around your area, they should have an idea or two. You could also canvas demand in your area through them.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • Sparx
    • By Sparx 16th Jun 17, 10:41 PM
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    Agreed we have 5-6 popular dog groomers round here, all constantly booked up for 2+ months at a time.

    I've seen a few more on Facebook local but they are just start-ups, little experience so not as popular or booked with.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 17th Jun 17, 7:41 PM
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    Parents recently closed their dog grooming business after a successful 30 years doing it. They've seen countless in the area start up, their customers try the new ones only to return and within months the new places have closed.

    To stand a chance of surviving you have to be good, you need to know what breed standards are and groom to those. But guess what, these direct courses don't teach you that, they teach you the basics which is why ones done with a reputable grooming parlour is worth the money because you learn what you actually need to know..

    The bloody good ones are rammed out with customers, the rest are scratting around doing basic bath and trim for next to nowt barely making minimum wage after expenses.
    • tetley
    • By tetley 20th Jun 17, 4:14 AM
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    Totally agree with the above poster, my wife has a successful dog grooming business and is sick to the back teeth of young upstarts with a 3 month course behind them who think they know it all. They start up by undercutting everybody else in the area, leave a trail of misery behind them, and then leave the area.
    Take your £4500 and spend it WITH a groomer, find one OUT of your area who would be prepared to take you on as a trainee, far better than any college course that has very loose links with city and Guilds.
    • blueberry5
    • By blueberry5 20th Jun 17, 8:22 AM
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    If you can find a college locally that offers the course, student finance now help with the costs of tuition fees on college courses.
    • Caroline_a
    • By Caroline_a 20th Jun 17, 8:57 AM
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    I think one of the important things about being a groomer is to be consistent. One of my dogs needs hand stripping, and as it's a specialist job not many groomers do it. I had the same groomer for 5 years and although she seemed to be getting a little more expensive each time, she'd always been ok. The last time she groomed him she rang me to say she had a few slots left before Christmas and did i want her to fit him in. I hadn't really thought about it but said yes. She rushed it - I was really surprised when she said he was ready so soon, and when I got him back and had a good look I could see that she'd just gone over him with clippers - a real no-no with his type of coat. I've since found another groomer, all trust went with that one groom.
    • gill37
    • By gill37 16th Jul 17, 5:47 PM
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    Waste of time and money - if you haven't got it to throw away please don't borrow it for this.
    Originally posted by jonesMUFCforever

    Can i ask why you say this? Is it the qualification thats a waste of money or the dog grooming job that would be a waste of time etc
    • jonesMUFCforever
    • By jonesMUFCforever 16th Jul 17, 6:52 PM
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    Can i ask why you say this? Is it the qualification thats a waste of money or the dog grooming job that would be a waste of time etc
    Originally posted by gill37
    Paying that kind of money for a piece of paper!
    IMO get a job with an existing dog groomer and build up experience.

    I don't think dog grooming is a waste of time.

    (To be honest before you ask the question YES i think some degrees offered today are a complete waste of money)
    What goes around - comes around
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    • bris
    • By bris 16th Jul 17, 11:50 PM
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    4.5k to learn how to wash and brush a dog? Are you mad, practice on your own, friends and families dogs and the advertise when you're any good, you think anyone wants to see your cert?


    This is a word of mouth type thing, retaining customer loyalty, certs don't get you repeat business, recommendations and experience does.
    • zippygeorgeandben
    • By zippygeorgeandben 17th Jul 17, 4:45 PM
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    I'm sure there is more to dog grooming than the above poster is suggesting. Otherwise it's an insult to the industry.
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