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    • ospre
    • By ospre 15th Jun 17, 9:58 PM
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    What are those things called that make you overtake a parked vehicle wider?
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    • 15th Jun 17, 9:58 PM
    What are those things called that make you overtake a parked vehicle wider? 15th Jun 17 at 9:58 PM
    Driven down a few narrow streets lately and seen a few parked vehicles with a red and white triangle that is attached to either the drivers or passengers door. The said triangle protrudes into the road so that when you are passing the stationary vehicle it makes you go round it slightly wider. They are also reflective so can been seen from a distance.

    Been searching on Google and eBay for the last hour trying to find out what they are called as I'd like to get one for when I park in narrow streets but for the life of me I can't find them.

    Does anybody have one or know exactly what they are called?
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 16th Jun 17, 10:39 AM
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    Gah! I know what OP is taking about. It's essentially a small triangle that I think has red/white stripes and stops people trying to drive too close and taking out wing mirrors etc.
    Originally posted by d0nkeyk0ng
    Well, discourages...

    <points up three posts to eBay link for exactly what you just described>
    • d0nkeyk0ng
    • By d0nkeyk0ng 16th Jun 17, 4:39 PM
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    Well, discourages...

    <points up three posts to eBay link for exactly what you just described>
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Yup those posts weren't there when I opened the thread. For some reason MSE didn't warn me that there'd been new replies!
    • Jackmydad
    • By Jackmydad 16th Jun 17, 5:09 PM
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    "What are those things called that make you overtake a parked vehicle wider?"
    "Common" and "sense" I thought.
    Although it might be "Cost of Wing Mirrors"
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 16th Jun 17, 5:18 PM
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    What a stupid idea. Did the designers not think about the fact that most mirrors are above the door line where they show these fitted?

    So its possibly for another vehicles mirror to miss that and still clout your mirror. What a waste of money.

    Patent on the fixing to the cars door? I bet its the same as those finger guards everyone bought many years ago.



    OH DEAR!!! Just had a look and you really shouldn't advertise you were on Dragon's Den when they ripped your product to pieces. And said you flushed £30k down the toilet.
    Last edited by forgotmyname; 16-06-2017 at 5:48 PM.
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    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 16th Jun 17, 10:13 PM
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    Sounds like you're too old to still be behind the wheel. Something like this maybe more suitable for you. http://www.ringandride.org/service.html
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Give the old guy a kicking, eh? You don't know me, you don't know my licence and you don't know my vehicle. Not so long ago I was driving a PSV and an HGV. In my time I have driven everything from a tracked vehicle (APC) to an aircraft transporter.

    I don't know you or your licence, but I could easily imagine you as one of the idiots who tears through the sharp bends in my village at twice the 30 mph limit. But that would be unfair: I don't know you, do I? Why do so many younger people think all us Seniors are incompetent drivers?

    Read this and get the facts: us oldies have less road accidents than any age group.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24204489

    Maybe it's experience?
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 16th Jun 17, 10:30 PM
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    Give the old guy a kicking, eh? You don't know me, you don't know my licenceYou're only driving cars now. and you don't know my vehicle. Mobility vehicle.Not so long ago I was driving a PSV and an HGV.But not anymore, you're not fit enough. In my time I have driven everything from a tracked vehicle (APC) to an aircraft transporter. We know once a year at the TA camp

    I don't know you or your licence, but I could easily imagine you as one of the idiots who tears through the sharp bends in my village at twice the 30 mph limit. id bet you a months pension I don't, but you can't afford to lose. But that would be unfair: I don't know you, do I? Why do so many younger people think all us Seniors are incompetent drivers? Its time you gave up driving.

    Read this and get the facts: us oldies have less road accidents than any age group.But you've driven away from several you've caused.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24204489

    Maybe it's experience?
    Originally posted by Robisere

    ..........
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 16th Jun 17, 11:50 PM
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    Read this and get the facts: us oldies have less road accidents than any age group.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24204489
    Originally posted by Robisere
    Less accidents overall, but there are less of them on the roads, on the other hand when it comes to accidents per miles driven, the "oldies" are the worst by a large margin.

    That doesn't even count the carpark dings that old people tend to conveniently forget happened less than 10s after the fact OR the number of accidents they cause without being involved in.
    Last edited by Strider590; 16-06-2017 at 11:53 PM.
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    • Geoff1963
    • By Geoff1963 17th Jun 17, 12:53 AM
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    There are no young drivers with 20 years of accident-free motoring.
    Anyhoo . . .

    How about CCTV that works while the car is parked ? Or signs saying it does.

    Wing mirrors are like salamanders' tails, they break off so that nothing more serious does.
    • bigadaj
    • By bigadaj 17th Jun 17, 7:30 AM
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    There are no young drivers with 20 years of accident-free motoring.
    Anyhoo . . .

    How about CCTV that works while the car is parked ? Or signs saying it does.

    Wing mirrors are like salamanders' tails, they break off so that nothing more serious does.
    Originally posted by Geoff1963
    But salamanders tails grow back, well some do.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 17th Jun 17, 2:44 PM
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    But salamanders tails grow back, well some do.
    Originally posted by bigadaj

    A quick trip to the breakers or a browse on ebay and your car can grow its ears back just as easily

    Well you hope so anyway

    I had a look at that patent and fail to see how they patented the way it attaches to a door. Looks identical to every door edge protector strip that clips on.
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    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 17th Jun 17, 4:47 PM
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    ..........
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Specious, unfounded argument and you don't even read the link you send. *
    I repeat: YOU DON'T KNOW ME! I actually drive an auto truck for a mate from time to time, and I am covered for it by his insurance. So I don't " only drive cars now " But if I did, so what?
    " Mobilty vehicle " - that's a scooter. I drive a Motability SUV actually.
    " ...once a year at TA camp " No, 12 years of service in the Army Air Corps.
    I can afford to lose a month's pension actually, due to the fact that I worked and saved to provide a Private Pension. However, I think more of my money, than to waste it, even on a definite win against an idiot.
    When I think it is time to give up driving, I will not need the advice of an idiot to do so. I will give up in my own time, in my own recognisance. However, YOU DON'T KNOW ME, so how can you judge?
    I have NEVER been the cause of an accident in all my years of driving. However, two younger people have driven into my car in separate incidents. On both occasions, they were at fault (driving out of a junction onto a main road) and both insurance companies agreed.

    * Quote from the link you posted yourself:
    " The Department for Transport (DfT) says there is no evidence older drivers are more likely to cause an accident, and it has no plans to restrict licensing or mandate extra training on the basis of age. "

    How many times can you support your own dumb words by saying something dumber?
    I'm done on this one, it fails to amuse me any further.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • Richard53
    • By Richard53 18th Jun 17, 6:28 AM
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    Less accidents overall, but there are less of them on the roads, on the other hand when it comes to accidents per miles driven, the "oldies" are the worst by a large margin.
    Originally posted by Strider590
    Source for this statement?


    I'm pretty sure the stats I have seen - "accidents per mile travelled", which accounts for lower usage by older drivers - show a massive peak between 17 and 24, a decline up to age 70 and then a small rise thereafter, although still a fraction of the 17-24 figure. Willing to be shown I am wrong, though.
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    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 18th Jun 17, 11:17 AM
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    Specious, unfounded argument and you don't even read the link you send. *
    I repeat: YOU DON'T KNOW ME! I actually drive an auto truck for a mate from time to time, and I am covered for it by his insurance. So I don't " only drive cars now " But if I did, so what?
    " Mobilty vehicle " - that's a scooter. I drive a Motability SUV actually.
    " ...once a year at TA camp " No, 12 years of service in the Army Air Corps.
    I can afford to lose a month's pension actually, due to the fact that I worked and saved to provide a Private Pension. However, I think more of my money, than to waste it, even on a definite win against an idiot.
    When I think it is time to give up driving, I will not need the advice of an idiot to do so. I will give up in my own time, in my own recognisance. However, YOU DON'T KNOW ME, so how can you judge?
    I have NEVER been the cause of an accident in all my years of driving. However, two younger people have driven into my car in separate incidents. On both occasions, they were at fault (driving out of a junction onto a main road) and both insurance companies agreed.

    * Quote from the link you posted yourself:
    " The Department for Transport (DfT) says there is no evidence older drivers are more likely to cause an accident, and it has no plans to restrict licensing or mandate extra training on the basis of age. "

    How many times can you support your own dumb words by saying something dumber?
    I'm done on this one, it fails to amuse me any further.
    Originally posted by Robisere
    Irony at its best.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 18th Jun 17, 11:33 AM
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    I hope they don't protrude more than 305mm from the door because if they do then those people using them are breaking the law unless they give the police 2 working days written notice, place additional marker boards on the front and rear of the vehicle and leave the vehicle lights and marker board lights on at night .
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 18th Jun 17, 11:34 AM
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    What a stupid idea. Did the designers not think about the fact that most mirrors are above the door line where they show these fitted?
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    You can't because then the vehicle comes in the remit of abnormal load and requires police notification, marker boards, additional lighting and to be lit on a night.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 18th Jun 17, 11:37 AM
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    Read this and get the facts: us oldies have less road accidents than any age group.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24204489

    Maybe it's experience?
    Originally posted by Robisere
    Or the fact retired people don't drive much.

    From your link:

    Research by the RAC Foundation suggests drivers aged 75 and over make up 6% of all licence holders but account for just 4.3% of all deaths and serious injuries. By contrast, drivers aged 16-20 make up just 2.5% of all drivers but 13% of those killed and seriously injured.
    However that doesn't make any mention of mileage. It is more likely that its the fact you don't drive anywhere that is the reason old people have fewer accidents. Many working people are commuting 200-400 miles a week alone plus any weekend driving which is far more than most retired people do in a week. I bet if the statistics were worked out on a per mile basis the results would be a far different story.
    • silverwhistle
    • By silverwhistle 18th Jun 17, 2:06 PM
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    When I saw the title of the OP's post my immediate thought was "wing mirrors"! These days they all seem to be colour coded to the vehicle, so perhaps a solution would be to have them in vibrant fluorescent colours, perhaps with a diamond studded edge.

    I once suggested to a blind friend that she get a diamond tipped stick as it would be so effective in identifying cars obstructing the footway....
    • Richard53
    • By Richard53 19th Jun 17, 7:01 AM
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    Or the fact retired people don't drive much.
    ...
    I bet if the statistics were worked out on a per mile basis the results would be a far different story.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    See my post 32 above. I'm sure I have seen research which shows that older drivers have fewer accidents per mile travelled than the 17-24 group*. I can't track the article down as I am at work, and I willing to be proved wrong, but that's the very firm impression I had.


    I'm quite sympathetic to the older driver, as I am heading that way myself - despite nearly being taken out for good by an elderly man in my village who was still driving despite suffering from the early stages of dementia and clearly unfit to drive. But as a general truth, elderly drivers are far from the most dangerous.


    *Possibly it was KSI rather than accidents per se. That would make more sense to me - perhaps more trivial bumps but fewer serious smashes. I await enlightenment.
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    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 19th Jun 17, 7:12 AM
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    Or the fact retired people don't drive much.

    From your link:



    However that doesn't make any mention of mileage. It is more likely that its the fact you don't drive anywhere that is the reason old people have fewer accidents. Many working people are commuting 200-400 miles a week alone plus any weekend driving which is far more than most retired people do in a week. I bet if the statistics were worked out on a per mile basis the results would be a far different story.
    Originally posted by Tarambor

    There was a BBC article leading to statistics presented by the former transport secretary some years ago, it pretty much stated that the elderly have vastly more accidents per mile than any other demographic.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/2008/09/some_statistics_on_elderly_dri.shtml

    Impossible to find by searching the site, good job I book marked it.

    There are American websites showing similar stats, but if I post them people will just argue they don't count, because American "senior citizens" are totally different to Brits.
    Last edited by Strider590; 19-06-2017 at 7:16 AM.
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    • photome
    • By photome 19th Jun 17, 8:02 AM
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    What a stupid idea. Did the designers not think about the fact that most mirrors are above the door line where they show these fitted?

    So its possibly for another vehicles mirror to miss that and still clout your mirror. What a waste of money.

    Patent on the fixing to the cars door? I bet its the same as those finger guards everyone bought many years ago.



    OH DEAR!!! Just had a look and you really shouldn't advertise you were on Dragon's Den when they ripped your product to pieces. And said you flushed £30k down the toilet.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    Am I missing something, who has been on dragons den
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