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    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 15th Jun 17, 12:16 PM
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    AA Car Genie - Reviews?
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    • 15th Jun 17, 12:16 PM
    AA Car Genie - Reviews? 15th Jun 17 at 12:16 PM
    I got an email from the AA yesterday advertising their new Car Genie device which was free when paying a yearly subscription fee of £29 which I find very reasonable. So I ordered one

    The device promises to alert you of your battery health, as well as predicting breakdowns before they even occur. Even keeping track of your driving and giving you hints on how to save fuel and things.

    It all sounds too good to be true but I'm looking forward to it arriving within the next few days!

    Does anybody have one? Did it predict an early breakdown or anything?
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    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 15th Jun 17, 12:32 PM
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    Could be OK as a novelty.

    I would be sceptical that it may encourage you to get the AA out for preventative (chargeable) work that isn't really needed.

    Given that a decent battery comes with a minimum of 3yrs warranty this shouldn't be a problem for most cars that are used regularly. As for predicting breakdowns all it will do is alert you to any pending fault codes that if enough to cause an issue would show up on your dashboard with a check engine light.
    • takman
    • By takman 15th Jun 17, 12:39 PM
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    All it does is read the fault codes and check battery voltage and is suited to people who don't look after their cars and ignore the engine light on the dashboard or who ignore signs of a failing battery that has been in their car for 6 years +.

    You would have been better off getting a £6 Bluetooth ODB adapter off eBay and using the Torque app (free) to read your fault codes and check battery voltage. This app also gives you much more information as well.

    If your interested in app that monitor driving styles there are many that are also free.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 15th Jun 17, 5:13 PM
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    Ahh I guess that is the case then. It's just I'm having non-stop issues with my car anyway and I've looked into buying a diagnostic computer but I'm not really a mechanic, nor have I been driving a long time to know what would be right or wrong to buy, so I just thought this little device might be a good idea but I guess it might have been a waste of money. We shall see. Thanks for your replies!
    • Tiexen
    • By Tiexen 15th Jun 17, 6:40 PM
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    Ahh I guess that is the case then. It's just I'm having non-stop issues with my car anyway and I've looked into buying a diagnostic computer but I'm not really a mechanic, nor have I been driving a long time to know what would be right or wrong to buy, so I just thought this little device might be a good idea but I guess it might have been a waste of money. We shall see. Thanks for your replies!
    Originally posted by Jlawson118
    I don't think its waste of money:

    “With certain fault codes, we actually proactively contacted members before breakdowns to advise them,”

    “Any faults reported to members are also pushed to our diagnostic dashboard within the AA, so they’ll be constantly monitored by our technical helpdesk team. If it’s something that needs to be addressed quickly, the team will get the relevant technical information and make an outbound call to the member.

    And I guess if you do have a breakdown the AA may know whats wrong even before they turn up.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 15th Jun 17, 7:12 PM
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    A device connected to your battery 24/7, using your battery power to monitor the battery, im sure there is a flaw in that design somewhere?

    Silly idea but wont your battery have more power if it wasnt powering some silly gadget?

    Predicts breakdowns before they occur? Simple OBD reader which will be one of the first things they plug in anyway.
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    • chrisw
    • By chrisw 15th Jun 17, 11:22 PM
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    How many times does anyone actually break down due to an engine fault?

    Batteries tend to give some warning that they will expire shortly and engine management faults usually either just flag a light or revert to limp mode to get you home.

    Actual break downs tend to be mechanical such as puncture, split hose, broken spring, etc which no such gadget could predict.
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 16th Jun 17, 11:23 AM
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    • 16th Jun 17, 11:23 AM
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    • 16th Jun 17, 11:23 AM
    How many times does anyone actually break down due to an engine fault?

    Batteries tend to give some warning that they will expire shortly and engine management faults usually either just flag a light or revert to limp mode to get you home.

    Actual break downs tend to be mechanical such as puncture, split hose, broken spring, etc which no such gadget could predict.
    Originally posted by chrisw
    My car was running funny towards the end of last year and I took it in for inspection and they found a corroded coil pack. They replaced it but the thing is, beforehand, I wasn't getting any engine management light..
    Now it's running absolutely terrible again, and I last had it plugged into the computer about a month ago and nothing was showing back then either, no lights all the same.

    Could there maybe be an issue with the ECU? In terms of my issues, the car is just very slow and sluggish as well as jumpy upon moving off, although I've never had issues with starting up the car. Or could this possibly be the battery?

    Although I had my MOT last month and it passed with no issues whatsoever
    Last edited by Jlawson118; 16-06-2017 at 11:31 AM.
    • alanf1314
    • By alanf1314 8th Aug 17, 2:53 PM
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    I know nothing about my car so having the AA with me feels like a good thing! It also has additional things over and above breakdown according to the website:


    Knowing your carís location so you can find it or see if itís been moved
    Detecting a crash and triggering a call from us to help
    Offering fuel efficiency tips, interactive maps and recording your trips
    Letting you know of any issues through push notifications via the app


    It's only £29 so will give it a try. Seems better than the pain and stress of breaking down
    • Nodding Donkey
    • By Nodding Donkey 10th Aug 17, 11:36 AM
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    Just remember if your phone connects to the car via Bluetooth you'll have to decide which you want to use, this or your phone.
    • Exemplar
    • By Exemplar 10th Aug 17, 3:01 PM
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    Hmmm not sure that is correct with modern smart phones that can have multiple BT connections.
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    • By DoaM 10th Aug 17, 3:09 PM
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    Hmmm not sure that is correct with modern smart phones that can have multiple BT connections.
    Originally posted by Exemplar
    Indeed. I had a Merc C220d hire car last year and it connected via Bluetooth to both my work phone (for calls) and my own phone (for music).
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    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 10th Aug 17, 3:32 PM
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    Depends upon the version of bluetooth in both car and phone. The latest standard allows multiple connections.
    • takman
    • By takman 10th Aug 17, 3:35 PM
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    I know nothing about my car so having the AA with me feels like a good thing! It also has additional things over and above breakdown according to the website:

    Knowing your carís location so you can find it or see if itís been moved
    Originally posted by alanf1314
    From what i can tell it connects to your phone and uses your phones mobile data. So you won't be able to see your cars location or if it has been moved unless you also leave your phone in the car.
    Unless it does have it own mobile connection that isn't mentioned on the website.

    Detecting a crash and triggering a call from us to help
    Originally posted by alanf1314
    This may be the one and only actually useful feature it has.

    Offering fuel efficiency tips, interactive maps and recording your trips
    Originally posted by alanf1314
    Like i said above there are plenty of Apps that you can get for free that do this.

    [QUOTE=alanf1314;72957905]
    Letting you know of any issues through push notifications via the app

    It's only £29 so will give it a try. Seems better than the pain and stress of breaking down
    Originally posted by alanf1314
    If there is a problem with you car the engine light will come on and if your battery is on it's way out the car will struggle to start.

    So this won't actually help you breakdown less unless you completely ignore all signs of trouble with your car until the app on your phone sends a notification.

    But i can see why the AA want to promote such a device because they will be getting alot of data of how you drive, where you go and at what times plus information from the cars computer which they analyse against how the car is being driven at the time.
    So they may be able to make a bit of money because there are lots of companies who would be interested in this kind of data.
    • lewishardwick
    • By lewishardwick 11th Aug 17, 8:51 PM
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    Just saw the Ad on the TV for this. I do wonder if they'll refuse to attend if you have been driving around for a few days with a warning light on?
    • Bev333
    • By Bev333 12th Aug 17, 2:14 AM
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    I[QUOTE=Jlawson118;72701300]I got an email from the AA yesterday advertising their new Car Genie device which was free when paying a yearly subscription fee of £29 which I find very reasonable. So I ordered one

    The device promises to alert you of your battery health, as well as predicting breakdowns before they even occur. Even keeping track of your driving and giving you hints on how to save fuel and things.

    It all sounds too good to be true but I'm looking forward to it arriving within the next few days!

    Does anybody have one? Did it predict an early breakdown or
    • Bev333
    • By Bev333 12th Aug 17, 2:30 AM
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    I was with Green Flag for 2 years and used their system. I wanted it primarily for the battery as I didn't want to get caught out. Their android app which was downloaded to my cell and tablet would not register my account so it's "Rescue Me" tracker was not fit for purpose.
    When the battery failed I had no warning whatsoever, no feedback from the device even when the battery was being tested in the garage. So basically useless as it necessitated a call out.
    I have since returned to the AA but will not be adding their device until I see evidence that they actually work. Also, don't like the "Big Brother" aspect of it all..
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 12th Aug 17, 10:26 AM
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    No, it wont predict an early breakdown any more than the engine management light coming on will.

    If there is a fault that triggers the EML then the box will see that, but you will see it also and will already know something is wrong.

    Battery monitor, but it also takes power from the battery.

    It could be a hinder as much as a help. The light may come of for a minor reason, cars runnign fine you need to be somewhere so carry on.
    Then after you call them out and they say tough you drove past garages after the faulty showed originally?
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    • alanf1314
    • By alanf1314 16th Aug 17, 9:49 AM
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    Just remember if your phone connects to the car via Bluetooth you'll have to decide which you want to use, this or your phone.
    Originally posted by Nodding Donkey
    This is wrong. The Car Genie has a SIM card in it and transmits information via mobile data. You can even see where the car is when you're not in it. No BT connection is required. I use my phone hands-free via BT and the device still works perfectly
    • Jlawson118
    • By Jlawson118 17th Aug 17, 9:43 AM
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    I know nothing about my car so having the AA with me feels like a good thing! It also has additional things over and above breakdown according to the website:


    Knowing your carís location so you can find it or see if itís been moved
    Detecting a crash and triggering a call from us to help
    Offering fuel efficiency tips, interactive maps and recording your trips
    Letting you know of any issues through push notifications via the app


    It's only £29 so will give it a try. Seems better than the pain and stress of breaking down
    Originally posted by alanf1314
    I've had it for a few months now and it certainly doesn't seem like a waste of money, though I have to say that the driving score can seem quite inaccurate at times. I did a long motorway trip a few days ago and stuck to the speed limit the entire way, and it still accuses me of speeding and gave me a 62% score for speed. Regarding the faults, it came up with something to do with my battery, that I'm going to get checked this morning
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