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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 14th Jun 17, 9:48 PM
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    New Generation Slapped Hard for 3,375 for 'Consumer Offences' in South Wales
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    • 14th Jun 17, 9:48 PM
    New Generation Slapped Hard for 3,375 for 'Consumer Offences' in South Wales 14th Jun 17 at 9:48 PM
    Just blogged by PP.

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/new-generation-parking-management-found.html

    Sorry BG, you must be having a nap!
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • waamo
    • By waamo 14th Jun 17, 9:52 PM
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    Made my day that has.
    This space for hire.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 14th Jun 17, 9:54 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 9:54 PM
    Well done to those PPC fighters in Wales, behind/helping with/pushing for and publicising this case.

    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 14th Jun 17, 10:11 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 10:11 PM
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    Great read ...... Trading Standards can get things done

    It's the DRP rubbish that Trading standards should go after

    No UMK not napping, was in the shower with my neighbours wife
    Last edited by beamerguy; 14-06-2017 at 10:17 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

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    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 14th Jun 17, 10:19 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 10:19 PM
    But none of it was our fault your honour
    To quote the words of the great Count Arthur Strong "You Couldn't make it up"
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 14th Jun 17, 10:23 PM
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    But none of it was our fault your honour
    Originally posted by fisherjim
    It was them damned forums!
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    • lovinituk
    • By lovinituk 14th Jun 17, 10:24 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 10:24 PM
    What were the other 3 charges that were dropped?
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 14th Jun 17, 10:37 PM
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    What were the other 3 charges that were dropped?
    Originally posted by lovinituk
    Only know what PP blogged. Ask the Q on his blog, maybe he knows?
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • Noree
    • By Noree 14th Jun 17, 10:46 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 10:46 PM
    So if their sign has an IPC sticker removed, thus exposing the BPA logo instead, wouldn't it invalidate their own initial 'clause' to send a notice in the first place?
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 14th Jun 17, 10:49 PM
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    So if their sign has an IPC sticker removed, thus exposing the BPA logo instead, wouldn't it invalidate their own initial 'clause' to send a notice in the first place?
    Originally posted by Noree
    If a judge agrees. This skimdustry is totally wild, and unregulated. A bit like expecting hyenas to form an orderly queue to eat their quarry.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • trisontana
    • By trisontana 14th Jun 17, 10:58 PM
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    I don't suppose that the IPC will cancel NGPM's membership now that they have a criminal record. It didn't happen with OPC and the BPA when that PPC was found guilty in a criminal court.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 14th Jun 17, 11:10 PM
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    Only know what PP blogged. Ask the Q on his blog, maybe he knows?
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    I was told by a contact that the offences brought by TS were all in relation to logos and Trade Organisation that NGPM Ltd were displaying.

    Nothing to do with the terms on signs or advertising consent or rogue practices, all about logos and whether they were members of who they said they were members of (not just the BPA).

    The excuses (stuff about stickers on signs being placed then removed - true or not - hmmmm...?!) didn't wash with those who wanted TS to come down harder on them. A partial cop out, seems to me.

    But a useful result to quote against this PPC and others using dodgy logos.

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    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 15th Jun 17, 8:28 AM
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    The excuses (stuff about stickers on signs being placed then removed - true or not - hmmmm...?!)
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Well all the vandals around my area carry step ladders these days!
    To quote the words of the great Count Arthur Strong "You Couldn't make it up"
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 15th Jun 17, 8:38 AM
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    Logos are important, especially if claiming membership of a trade body to which you have no affiliation.


    It is good to see a Trading Standards Department taking action on behalf of the consumer, so often Councils cut funding to consumer protection in order to employ their full quota of Diversity Co-ordinators.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 15th Jun 17, 9:36 AM
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    I agree logos are important as this case shows.

    I often wonder how an appeal to the IPC would go if logos were a significant factor. Something along the lines of

    "the driver examined the signage and saw the operator was a BPA member. The driver knowing and understanding the BPA code of conduct has great faith in their operators.

    On this basis the driver chose to park. Had the driver been made aware the operator was not a BPA member they would have left the car park and found an alternate place to park."

    A few photos of signs showing BPA logos and it could make Skippy have to do a little more work than cutting and pasting rejection points.
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