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    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 13th Jun 17, 11:34 PM
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    how to lock a door from the outside?
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    • 13th Jun 17, 11:34 PM
    how to lock a door from the outside? 13th Jun 17 at 11:34 PM
    Hello all

    My friend is living in a student flat and wants to lock his bedroom door when out and I am trying to help him find a way to lock it. Heres a photo of the door.

    https://ibb.co/kdUkQ5

    If anyone has any links to products that I could use I would be most grateful.

    Read more: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/how-to-lock-a-door-from-the-outside.484015/#ixzz4jyQcmPVd
    Last edited by blackcloud; 14-06-2017 at 12:04 PM.
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    • Sillym00
    • By Sillym00 14th Jun 17, 12:29 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 12:29 AM
    Something like this. Oops can't post a link but search a well know online marketplace beginning with A and search IRONMONGERY WORLD® CHROME BATHROOM TOILET CUPBOARD BARREL DOOR LOCK BOLTS STRAIGHT AND CRANKED AND SCREW (4" INCH/100MM NECKED)
    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 14th Jun 17, 1:55 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 1:55 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 1:55 AM
    thanks, you mean this?
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/IRONMONGERY-BATHROOM-CUPBOARD-STRAIGHT-CRANKED/dp/B01ALQ12GI

    But how do you put a padlock though it?? What type of pad lock ie size (a link would be better) would fit that above? and where would it be inserted into the door bolt?
    Remember this is for the outside of a door to lock from the outside.


    how about this?
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sterling-DOOR-BOLT-LOCK-Sliding-Combination-Code-Resettable-Gate-Shed-Garage-/172646125858?hash=item283282d122:g:1gwAAOSw-tNXILCM

    would this work on the outside of the bedroom door looking at the pic of the outside of the bedroom door and would it lock the outside of the bedroom door?

    Dont want to mess with the door handle.
    Last edited by blackcloud; 14-06-2017 at 12:05 PM.
    • downhillfast
    • By downhillfast 14th Jun 17, 2:47 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 2:47 AM
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    I wouldn't use one of those combination ones as it will make it very easy for someone to lock you IN your bedroom should they wish! You need a bolt that a padlock will attach to so you can leave the LOCKED padlock on the bolt when it is open so it cannot be used against you.

    Google Search for Padlock Bolt
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Jun 17, 5:14 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 5:14 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 5:14 AM
    Just change the door handle - to one with a keyhole in it - and have a lock inserted into the door internally (instead of the metal doorcatch type thing that will be there currently).

    I've had a workman do that for me on a couple of internal doors in my house - so that I can use the key I got with this and lock the doors to those rooms if I wish to.
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    • Ant555
    • By Ant555 14th Jun 17, 8:28 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 8:28 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 8:28 AM
    As already suggested, a bolt will do but at the risk of someone locking you in if its left in the wrong position - I have a 'hasp' on my shed with a padlock but as you can see from the link below there are some with keylocks built-in.

    http://www.diy.com/search?Ntt=hasp
    • LandyAndy
    • By LandyAndy 14th Jun 17, 9:03 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 9:03 AM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 9:03 AM
    Just change the door handle - to one with a keyhole in it - and have a lock inserted into the door internally (instead of the metal doorcatch type thing that will be there currently).

    I've had a workman do that for me on a couple of internal doors in my house - so that I can use the key I got with this and lock the doors to those rooms if I wish to.
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention

    I'm intrigued to know why you'd want to have locking internal doors.
    • Ant555
    • By Ant555 14th Jun 17, 12:11 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 12:11 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 12:11 PM
    I'm intrigued to know why you'd want to have locking internal doors.
    Originally posted by LandyAndy
    My neighbour runs a small business and has important paperwork and often ome cash at home. Although there is a safe in his bedroom he has a lock on the door as his two 20-something sons often have friends round.

    He tells me that he doesn't expect anything to happen but 'what if' something went missing...
    He has the same handles as all the other doors upstairs but his bedroom has a locking latch - similar to this link. You don;t really notice that it is any different to the others
    https://www.handleking.co.uk/satin-chrome-door-handle-pack-with-handles-on-lock-backplate-lock-hinges-h751222s-hl1


    Or, as seems likely from the OP, this is a shared house split into rooms rented out seprately. In that instance I would DEFINITELY want to lock my door as you could maybe trust your house mates but what about their mates?
    Last edited by Ant555; 14-06-2017 at 12:17 PM.
    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 14th Jun 17, 12:12 PM
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    • 14th Jun 17, 12:12 PM
    I wouldn't use one of those combination ones as it will make it very easy for someone to lock you IN your bedroom should they wish! You need a bolt that a padlock will attach to so you can leave the LOCKED padlock on the bolt when it is open so it cannot be used against you.

    Google Search for Padlock Bolt
    Originally posted by downhillfast
    They look massive for just a bedroom door, would that work on a bedroom door? maybe there is a small version of one of those?

    Heres more pics of door

    https://ibb.co/iBJSoQ
    https://ibb.co/k5VJv5
    • Ant555
    • By Ant555 14th Jun 17, 12:48 PM
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    For £11 this might be an easy option.

    It looks like it would replace the existing round door knob. It has a key lock on the outside and a simple turner on the inside for security when inside the room (if required)

    This would also probably not require any extra holes in the door if that is a problem with the landlord etc and the existing one can easily be put back at the end of the lease.

    la-56954507225%7ccrid:186881916418%7cnw:g%7crnd:13642 647599013798512%7cdvc:c%7cadp:1o1%7cloc:9046452&gc lid=CI3qleShvdQCFUk6Gwod-5oLsA&gclsrc=aw.ds">https://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/product/touchpoint-hotel-door-knobset-entrance-polished-brass-536560?vat=1&shopping=true&rmatt=tsid:%7ccid:77982 2311%7cagid:41219847072%7ctid:aud-309229195409la-56954507225%7ccrid:186881916418%7cnw:g%7crnd:13642 647599013798512%7cdvc:c%7cadp:1o1%7cloc:9046452&gc lid=CI3qleShvdQCFUk6Gwod-5oLsA&gclsrc=aw.ds

    hope this helps
    Last edited by Ant555; 14-06-2017 at 12:50 PM.
    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 14th Jun 17, 1:21 PM
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    We tried to install one of those but it didnt fit, so dont want to go down that route again with the door handle, so need something like a bolt. We fitted a bolt on the door but there was no where to put the pad lock to lock it closed. So took it off. So maybe there is a different type of door bolt that would accept a padlock or something similar.
    • Ant555
    • By Ant555 14th Jun 17, 1:23 PM
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    We tried to install one of those but it didnt fit, so dont want to go down that route again with the door handle, so need something like a bolt. We fitted a bolt on the door but there was no where to put the pad lock to lock it closed. So took it off. So maybe there is a different type of door bolt that would accept a padlock or something similar.
    Originally posted by blackcloud
    Search for 'hasp'
    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 14th Jun 17, 1:37 PM
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    Would this work

    http://cdn.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/52923.jpg

    On this type of door/door frame?
    https://ibb.co/iBJSoQ
    https://ibb.co/k5VJv5

    Do you think it matters that the door and door frame is hollow?

    How about either of these two products? Would they work do you think?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Combi-Bolt-Keyless-Combination-Slide-Bolt-Lock-for-Gates-Doors-Windows-Sheds-/371115733744?hash=item566838b2f0:g:bvAAAOxyyrRR-vF6



    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-LOCKING-DOOR-CHAIN-SCREWS-TRADE-QUALITY-SOLID-BRASS-Home-Safety-Guard-/201627529369?_trksid=p2349526.m2548.l4275

    The trouble with the chain one is that other students can still see in the room a little as the way its fitted it has to be loose enough to put the chain in right?
    Last edited by blackcloud; 14-06-2017 at 2:54 PM.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 14th Jun 17, 5:08 PM
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    I'm intrigued to know why you'd want to have locking internal doors.
    Originally posted by LandyAndy
    Because sometimes one has in strangers - eg leaving a workman on his own or the like.

    Add that I'm a woman living on my own - and I know I'm living in a much safer area than I was - but I like to have the option of locking the bedroom door behind me if I wish to. It's a peace of mind thing.
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    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 15th Jun 17, 1:51 PM
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    Would this work if I put a pad lock though it?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brenton-Garden-Sliding-Secure-Padlock/dp/B00KKNOX6O/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1497530952&sr=8-3&keywords=Combination+Code+Lock+Sliding+Door
    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 15th Jun 17, 2:17 PM
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    Yes it would, but I would strongly suggest you don't use that.

    Be aware that some of your friend's housemates might think it fun to just slide the bolt across and lock your friend in his room.
    • flashg67
    • By flashg67 15th Jun 17, 7:45 PM
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    If the house is classed as an HMO, I believe you can't put a lock on that can't also be opened from the inside, so an external bolt & padlock wouldn't do. I fitted a proper Yale type latch for my SD in her student room. I'd be nervous about her being locked in with what some are proposing, although looking at the door, it's been done like that before.
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