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    • enquirer22
    • By enquirer22 13th Jun 17, 1:22 PM
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    PAYG is a sham unfettered by Ofcom
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    • 13th Jun 17, 1:22 PM
    PAYG is a sham unfettered by Ofcom 13th Jun 17 at 1:22 PM
    it's really very simple. I want a PAYG sim. I want to pay for what I use. I don't want a PAYG monthly which is a contract by any other name. I currently have such a sim with TalkMobile - they are phasing it out. Instead they suggest I buy a vodaphone (pay monthly) PAYG sim. I have reported the lack of clarity on this to Ofcom who won't do anything about it because Ofcom, ofwat, ofgem, CISAS etc are really in cahoots with the industries they are supposed to regulate (they should all be disbanded at savings to the tax payer because they are useless).

    Can any of your point me to a PAYG sim which I simply top up when I need to?
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    • enquirer22
    • By enquirer22 14th Jun 17, 7:39 AM
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    3's mobile coverage isn't good enough where I live - I've tried them before and they recommended I used their useless wifi app to make and receive calls from home. I live in a major city in the South East.
    • enquirer22
    • By enquirer22 14th Jun 17, 7:45 AM
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    so... actually.. there are really only 3 companies out there which offer this (and have suitable coverage) - 1pmobile, 02 and Tesco? Any Vodaphone offer is unclear and they're absurdly expensive so they don't even want to do this. EE has to be renewed every 30 days like many others including giffgaff.
    • Inner Zone
    • By Inner Zone 14th Jun 17, 9:30 AM
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    so... actually.. there are really only 3 companies out there which offer this (and have suitable coverage) - 1pmobile, 02 and Tesco? Any Vodaphone offer is unclear and they're absurdly expensive so they don't even want to do this. EE has to be renewed every 30 days like many others including giffgaff.
    Originally posted by enquirer22
    No, no no. Only bundles require renewing, PAYG just requires a chargeable event every 84 to 180 days depending on network. All networks offer this. Just ignore the bundles and search a bit deeper.
    • pmduk
    • By pmduk 14th Jun 17, 9:57 AM
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    ...and, it is not clear what you are getting from their website. They confuse it more with 'rewards' etc but roll over bundles isn't of interest (which you have to call to activate) and the call charges are monstrous (30p/minute). If you select PAYG sim you get the same kind of presentation for PAYG Bundle and saying data can be rolled over suggests calls can't be.
    Originally posted by enquirer22

    You can download Vodafone's full list of charges here: http://www.vodafone.co.uk/cs/groups/public/documents/contentdocuments/pay-as-you-go-terms-and-charge.pdf


    By the way, Ofcom doesn't handle individual complaints from consumers. They go to the company's choice of alternative dispute resloution service. You mention CISAS, this receives no public funding and is funded by those companies that use it.


    PAYG charges per minute include a contribution to the cost of the infrastructure normally covered by the monthly contract fee. Obviously companies would rather have contract customers and price their offerings accordingly. There is no obligation on any company within the industry to offer a PAYG service and in fact some don't (eg Sky Mobile).
    Last edited by pmduk; 14-06-2017 at 10:03 AM.
    • d123
    • By d123 14th Jun 17, 12:45 PM
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    EE has to be renewed every 30 days like many others including giffgaff.
    Originally posted by enquirer22
    No, as has been said, they don't.

    All networks offer a standard PAYG plan.
    Dave
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    • Bozark
    • By Bozark 14th Jun 17, 2:56 PM
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    As mentioned above. . . there are plenty about, but I know what you meen. Not plugging them at all but I've been with Three for around 8 yrs and as long as you do not convert your top up into a bundle then all you have to do is use your phone once every six months ( I just phone Three which costs nothing ) and the credit is never lost. I topped my emergency phone up around four years ago and still got £9.78 credit.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 14th Jun 17, 3:06 PM
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    EE has to be renewed every 30 days like many others including giffgaff.
    Originally posted by enquirer22
    NO you are wrong it is only bundle that needs renewed every 30 days. I had an o2 PAYG when o2 ran Broadband and you had to top up £10 every month to get BB discount and at 1 point i had £120 credit on my PAYG.

    GIFFGAFF requires you to top up every 30 days to keep your bundle active, after 30 days you start eating into the £10 at their std PAYG rate the same as all providers.
    • d123
    • By d123 14th Jun 17, 4:45 PM
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    d123

    GIFFGAFF requires you to top up every 30 days to keep your bundle active, after 30 days you start eating into the £10 at their std PAYG rate the same as all providers.
    Originally posted by angryparcel
    Though you don't need to have had a bundle in the first place. GG PAYG rates have always been available without a bundle (goody bag in GG parlance).

    Their PAYG rates are on their website.
    Dave
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    • Stompa
    • By Stompa 14th Jun 17, 5:17 PM
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    GIFFGAFF goodybags are a good deal

    take their £10 goodybag you get 2 GB UK Data, 500 UK Minutes and Unlimited UK Text this last 30 days, but after the 30 days you start using the actual £10 at these rates https://www.giffgaff.com/pricing.
    Originally posted by angryparcel
    I'm not sure that makes sense, to me at least! You seem to be suggesting that you get to spend the same £10 twice, once for the goodybag, and subsequently at the rates shown in the link???
    Stompa
    • oldharryrocks
    • By oldharryrocks 14th Jun 17, 8:15 PM
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    GIFFGAFF goodybags are a good deal

    take their £10 goodybag you get 2 GB UK Data, 500 UK Minutes and Unlimited UK Text this last 30 days, but after the 30 days you start using the actual £10 at these rates https://www.giffgaff.com/pricing.

    I have had about £3.80 in my GG account for 3 years and all i have to do is every 6 months make a text or call from my giffgaff number.
    Originally posted by angryparcel
    Where does it say if you buy a bundle you get to keep the money to use again.News to me and many others I guess.
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