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    • emma2759
    • By emma2759 12th Jun 17, 9:39 PM
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    G24 parking ticket
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    • 12th Jun 17, 9:39 PM
    G24 parking ticket 12th Jun 17 at 9:39 PM
    Aplogies if I'm asking the obvious bit I have read through all the info on the newbie and the G24 parking threads bit I find it somewhat contradictory. I have had a contractual parking charge notice from G24 for overstaying in a free car park. Do I ignore or appeal it?
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 12th Jun 17, 9:56 PM
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    I find it somewhat contradictory
    What is contradictory? We need to put it right!

    Do I ignore or appeal it?
    What did the NEWBIES sticky suggest?
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

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    • emma2759
    • By emma2759 12th Jun 17, 10:00 PM
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    Talks about how to appeal etc but then at the end of lots of info states in one sentence ignoring it. In the G24 thread itself which is more outdated the advice is to ignore which is why I want clarification
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 12th Jun 17, 10:10 PM
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    In a nutshell:

    Appeal to G24 using the IPC template. It will be rejected. Do not avail yourself of the then offered IAS appeal process. Ignore everything thereafter, other than LBA/LBC/LBCCC from G24 (or their Solicitors) or real court papers.

    Have you complained to the landowner/retailer (or whosever land you parked on) and asked them to intervene?
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • emma2759
    • By emma2759 12th Jun 17, 10:21 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 10:21 PM
    OK not sure what the LBA/LBC etc are but will look into it as I'm not very confident in this sort of thing....never had one before and would have usually just paid up as it's £45 if paid with 14 days.
    I havent complained to the retailer as this particular car park 99% of people go to a completely different shop therfore (toys r us) I didnt actually enter the shop this car park is intended for (car park is at the rear of the shop toys r us) Should I still complain to them? I wouldn't have a receipt or anything so didn't think I would stand a chance? Thanks for your help
    Last edited by emma2759; 12-06-2017 at 10:25 PM.
    • Redx
    • By Redx 12th Jun 17, 10:25 PM
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    LBA = Letter Before Action , now known as an LBC (Letter Before Claim)

    so a warning letter before a court claim (MCOL) is issued

    google is your friend when looking up acronyms etc

    not patronising a business would never help you to get a parking charge cancelled , leaving site is one reason these par@sites are employed so it would help if yopu had conducted business onsite

    so its APPEAL to the PPC once using the correct template

    then for IPC members like G24 , its ignore , for 6 years, unless an LBC or MCOL comes in the post
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 12th Jun 17, 10:28 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 10:28 PM
    OK not sure what the LBA/LBC etc are but will look into it as I'm not very confident in this sort of thing....never had one before and would have usually just paid up as it's £45 if paid with 14 days.
    I havent complained to the retailer as this particular car park 99% of people go to a completely different shop therfore (toys r us) I didnt actually enter the shop this car park is intended for (car park is at the rear of the shop toys r us) Should I still complain to them? I wouldn't have a receipt or anything so didn't think I would stand a chance? Thanks for your help
    Originally posted by emma2759
    LBA/LBC/LBCCC - Letter Before Action/Claim/County Court Claim.

    G24 are not currently litigious - but do have 6 years to pursue. We can't guarantee what might happen between now and 2023, but not something to,lose sleep over right now. Ignore beyond the initial appeal rejection - cross any other bridge after that, if necessary.

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/G24.html

    But to get it killed off right away, best get a landowner cancellation if possible. Find out who the car park actually belongs to - Google, Local Valuation Office, Local Authority or from the horse's mouth, the Land Registry and pay (£3-£4) to get the absolute information.
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 12-06-2017 at 10:33 PM.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • emma2759
    • By emma2759 12th Jun 17, 10:34 PM
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    Right then OK I'll do that thanks for your help I wouldn't have had the confidence to not pay had I not known exactly what to do. Once I've found out who owns the land should I complain to them too?
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 12th Jun 17, 10:37 PM
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    Once I've found out who owns the land should I complain to them too?
    Absolutely.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • emma2759
    • By emma2759 13th Jun 17, 12:30 PM
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    Thanks both for your help, Ive been today to Toys R Us who have confirmed they are the landowners but wont waiver the ticket without a receipt, so today Ive sent the recommended appeal letter via G24's online appeal site. Is there anything else I need to/can do?
    Many thanks again
    • Redx
    • By Redx 13th Jun 17, 3:32 PM
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    the only other thing to do is complain to their head office

    otherwise its ride out the storm of DCA letters for 6 years, come back if you ever receive an MCOL
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Jun 17, 5:31 PM
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    Thanks both for your help, Ive been today to Toys R Us who have confirmed they are the landowners but wont waiver the ticket without a receipt, so today Ive sent the recommended appeal letter via G24's online appeal site. Is there anything else I need to/can do?
    Many thanks again
    Originally posted by emma2759
    Tell ToysRUs Head office in a complaint, that you were browsing for birthday pressies or a bike or console or large summer toy equipment (if true), and have now decided to shop elsewhere as you can't afford to be ripped off and unsupported as a genuine customer of the store.

    Demand they reconsider and cancel this threat.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

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