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    • By 43592210 12th Jun 17, 6:24 PM
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    Problem solving - Scottish keeper, English parking charge notice
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:24 PM
    Problem solving - Scottish keeper, English parking charge notice 12th Jun 17 at 6:24 PM
    **Any help much appreciated! ****

    A PCN is received on June 15th by Paul.

    It was issued by PREMIER PARK LTD for an 'offence' committed on April 15th.

    Paul lives in Scotland, and sold the car to Charlie on March 15th, but they hadn't registered Charlie as the new keeper until May 15th.

    Charlie was driving on April 15th and has no grounds to appeal the PCN.

    Paul and Charlie are friends, should Paul
    A) Provide Charlie's details to PREMIER as he was the driver on April 15th
    OR
    B) Ignore the letter, its not enforceable because Paul lives in Scotland, he doesn't have to give up Charlie
    OR
    C) Use the template to write to PREMIER to tell them that he is not obligated to give the name of the driver to PREMIER and request no further contact

    ??????

    THANK YOU!

    EDIT*** FORGOT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT CHARLIE HAS ALWAYS LIVED IN ENGLAND
    Last edited by 43592210; 12-06-2017 at 6:41 PM.
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 12th Jun 17, 6:27 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:27 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:27 PM
    option b), like the NEWBIES thread says

    cant be june 15th either , that is in 3 days time !!
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • 43592210
    • By 43592210 12th Jun 17, 6:31 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:31 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:31 PM
    Sorry - may or may not be key detail missing

    Although not yet the registered keeper at time of 'offence' Charlie lives in England.

    Thanks!
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 12th Jun 17, 6:56 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:56 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:56 PM
    As far as PP are concerned, they will be asking Paul in Scotland for the name of the driver. Paul can either name Charlie or invite PP to issue a claim against himself as Keeper as he "will not be naming the driver".

    Paul can also tell PP that he was not driving as he was in Scotland and has proof which he should send to PP.

    PP can then decide to try a claim in the Scots courts - unlikely or continue to write to Paul asking for the name of the driver.

    Paul under any circumstances should lie - but he needs not tell PP who was driving.

    Paul under any circumstances should not lie - but he needs not tell PP who was driving.

    If Paul does have evidence he could not have been driving, and has told PP, and if PP continue to contact him, Paul may have a claim against PP for damages from continuing to process his personal details. This may mean that PP would have to travel to Scotland to defend.

    Edit: Any other theoretical questions?
    Last edited by IamEmanresu; 12-06-2017 at 7:02 PM.
    Life's for living, get on with it rather than worrying about these. If they hassle, counter claim.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 12th Jun 17, 6:57 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:57 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 6:57 PM
    Bottom line - do NOT name the driver.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

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