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    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 12th Jun 17, 2:53 PM
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    corrugated garage roof - asbestos or not?
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    • 12th Jun 17, 2:53 PM
    corrugated garage roof - asbestos or not? 12th Jun 17 at 2:53 PM
    Hi all,
    Does anyone know if it is possible to tell whether corrugated sheets are asbestos based or not without sending off a sample?
    and if not, then how do I break off a sample safely?!



    Thanks!
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    • ariba10
    • By ariba10 12th Jun 17, 4:16 PM
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    They are generally made with Asbestos Cement.

    Our local refuge tip will take it if it is double bagged.

    I soaked min with water, broke it down into manageable size pieces and double bagged it.

    They accepted it at the tip no problem.
    I used to be indecisive but now I am not sure.
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 12th Jun 17, 4:22 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 4:22 PM
    Thanks,
    Yes I know our tip accepts it, but I'm considering whether to attempt DIY or get someone else to do it so I want to know for sure whether it is asbestos or not as I'm sure it would affect the cost.
    • Annie1960
    • By Annie1960 12th Jun 17, 7:16 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 7:16 PM
    Ask a local asbestos company for a quote, or send them a photo.

    They can tell pretty instantly whether it is asbestos.
    • MX5huggy
    • By MX5huggy 12th Jun 17, 8:24 PM
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    No they can't, without a sample.

    They can assume or presume it's asbestos but not know.
    • docmatt
    • By docmatt 12th Jun 17, 8:29 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 8:29 PM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 8:29 PM
    If it's not metal and the house was built before the 70's there is a very good chance it will be. Stick some waterproofs on and take it down in the rain, stick it in some bags taped up and take it to the tip but best call them first.
    • MisterP123
    • By MisterP123 13th Jun 17, 6:31 AM
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    • 13th Jun 17, 6:31 AM
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    • 13th Jun 17, 6:31 AM
    Why do you want to remove it? Is it in bad condition?

    If it isn't metal, isn't plastic and looks like grey cement, then likelihood is it's asbestos.

    Asbestos Cement can be removed DIY style with a few safety precautions.
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 13th Jun 17, 7:05 AM
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    The sheets have cracked so badly you can see major daylight through it. It has been deteriorating gradually over the last few years.

    Yes it looks like grey cement, house was built in the 50s, but garage probably much more recent

    Thanks.
    Last edited by andrewf75; 13-06-2017 at 10:27 AM.
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 13th Jun 17, 12:30 PM
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    • 13th Jun 17, 12:30 PM
    Asbestos Cement can be removed DIY style with a few safety precautions.
    Originally posted by MisterP123
    I'm in two minds whether to attempt this myself so I want to get it tested to find out. I have seen there are companies that send testing kits for around 40 quid but how do i safely break off a bit? If I'm going to start breaking it to find out I may as well just assume it is asbestos and take it off without breaking it?
    I would be quite happy to pay someone to replace the roof to be honest, but I am just concerned that the asbestos will just bump up the cost unnecessarily.
    • firefox1956
    • By firefox1956 13th Jun 17, 4:08 PM
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    Post a picture on here & somebody will be along with an informed guess as to what it is.
    I would not waste £40.00 finding out if it was asbestos cement sheeting.
    Just treat it as such........with sensible precautions
    Pics here
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=asbestos+cement+sheets&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=Kf8_WffVLMv38Afkh6qQBQ#q=corrugate d+asbestos+garage+roof+pics
    I would do the job youself.
    You are right that some sharp aleck would see you coming & the dreaded word asbestos would add £300 to the job.
    Last edited by firefox1956; 13-06-2017 at 4:11 PM.
    • stator
    • By stator 14th Jun 17, 10:55 AM
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    Assume it is asbestos.
    It's safe to remove yourself, just find bags big enough.

    The question is, how is it secured? Assuming it's bolts, are they going to come out? They're probably rusted too much. Can you get access to them to use a hacksaw or other cutting implement?
    Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 14th Jun 17, 11:24 AM
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    Assume it is asbestos.
    It's safe to remove yourself, just find bags big enough.

    The question is, how is it secured? Assuming it's bolts, are they going to come out? They're probably rusted too much. Can you get access to them to use a hacksaw or other cutting implement?
    Originally posted by stator
    Yeah I think it is fair to assume it is asbestos.
    This is why I'm reluctant to DIY. Not worried about bagging up the sheets and taking to the tip, but getting the sheets off could be tricky.
    I guess I could get someone to do the job but leave the sheets for me to dispose of
    • Niv
    • By Niv 14th Jun 17, 12:04 PM
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    If you are not happy to do the job yourself just get someone in and get them to bag it up for you.


    If the sheets are broken to the extent you can see daylight, take a look to see if you can see white fibres along the cracked edges - if there is then it is almost certainly asbestos, although there are some cases where glass fibre has been used as a substitute. A photo would help but officially others are correct in that a positive cannot be confirmed without lab analysis - although I must say I used to do the lab analysis and was never wrong on a visual of cement.
    YNWA

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    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 14th Jun 17, 1:10 PM
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    I will take some pics later and post them for your expert analysis, thanks!
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 15th Jun 17, 9:59 AM
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    OK pics hopefully attached, not sure if they are clear enough to see properly






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    • frugalmacdugal
    • By frugalmacdugal 15th Jun 17, 10:07 AM
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    Hi,

    just had to turn the picture, was getting a sore neck.


    Y'all take care now.
    • lg13mza
    • By lg13mza 15th Jun 17, 1:00 PM
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    I've recently took ours down, but I wanted to test first to check if I needed to 'be careful' or not. Only cost £20: https://www.comptonspares.com/asbestos-garage-removal/
    • Niv
    • By Niv 15th Jun 17, 3:38 PM
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    Cant see a close up enough to see fibres but by the pattern on the underside it looks like asbestos cement. How many corrugations per sheet? 6?
    YNWA

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    • EachPenny
    • By EachPenny 15th Jun 17, 8:48 PM
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    I'm gobsmacked that people are offering asbestos identification via pictures posted on the internet

    It is asbestos unless you can prove otherwise, and you can only do that by testing, and removing a sample to test poses a health risk itself.

    Before doing anything with asbestos - and that includes suggesting people take a DIY approach - you should read the HSE guidance http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/

    It has already started to degrade which means any asbestos fibres present may already be free.

    A question for the OP - how much do you think it would cost to buy a new pair of lungs? Is saving a few hundred quid to get it removed professionally worth ruining your health and potentially putting other people at risk?
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 15th Jun 17, 10:58 PM
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    Not about to take any risks. My opening post said how do I safely take a sample! I am treating it as asbestos unless proved othereise. Also I have done enough research to know that the stuff used in these roofing sheets is not the really lethal stuff.
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