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    • Rev
    • By Rev 12th Jun 17, 2:19 PM
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    Plex server advice.
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    • 12th Jun 17, 2:19 PM
    Plex server advice. 12th Jun 17 at 2:19 PM
    Hope someone can give me some advice. I have an old laptop I've just replaced with a chromebook, it's a HP DM1, so was great for basic browsing etc but the trackpad buttons failed and I fancied trying a chromebook. It seems a shame to just bin the laptop so I'm wondering if I could turn it into a plex server.

    Surely if a raspberry pi can be a plex server then this can. I don't need it to sream 1080 or 4K. I onlt have a 42" TV and it's just me using it not a house full of people so it doesn't need to stream several things at once.

    I know it wont be powerful enough to transcode anything but I can optimize stuff on the desktop and transfer it to an external drive attached to the laptop.

    I've never used linux before but am a quick learner and happy to give it a go. Currently googling openelec to see what that's about and if that would work.

    Anyone have any suggestions?

    Thanks.
    Last edited by Rev; 12-06-2017 at 2:25 PM.
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    • S0litaire
    • By S0litaire 14th Jun 17, 3:15 PM
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    S0litaire
    To get "Specials" to be shown (they don't usually fit in the "S##.E##" format Plex likes and expects.)

    You usually have to manually add into the name the series number and use the episode counter of 00 (double zero)

    Example:
    in the case of The Doctor Who 50th Christmas special, you would have to add in "S07.E00".

    Plex should now spot it and label it correctly for the Christmas episode.

    You will find things might need manual tweaking to get things to show properly.

    I.E for trilogies or multipart movies/mini-series you might have to make sure the titles are identical and then add in "Part1", "Part2" etc...
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    • Rev
    • By Rev 14th Jun 17, 11:36 PM
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    Rev
    To get "Specials" to be shown (they don't usually fit in the "S##.E##" format Plex likes and expects.)

    You usually have to manually add into the name the series number and use the episode counter of 00 (double zero)

    Example:
    in the case of The Doctor Who 50th Christmas special, you would have to add in "S07.E00".

    Plex should now spot it and label it correctly for the Christmas episode.

    You will find things might need manual tweaking to get things to show properly.

    I.E for trilogies or multipart movies/mini-series you might have to make sure the titles are identical and then add in "Part1", "Part2" etc...
    Originally posted by S0litaire
    Figured it out in the end. For some reason filebot had listed changed the name of one episode (The christmas invasion) , literally one episode. Soon as I figured that out and corrected it they all showed up fine.

    Okay, next question, how can I access the external drive attached to the laptop from my windows 10 desktop in another room?

    Can't figure out how to share it, I have 'shared' it in linux and it shows up on my windows machine but the folders are empty and don't match the actual folders on the drive.

    I want to be able to transfer things via network from the desktop to the laptop external drive.
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    • rtho782
    • By rtho782 15th Jun 17, 8:35 AM
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    Plex is even better when linked with Sonarr for TV shows and Couchpotato for films. These actually name files correctly so they are picked up better.
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    • psychic teabag
    • By psychic teabag 15th Jun 17, 9:46 AM
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    It was getting my head around the fact that as far as linux is concerned I don't own the external drive until I tell it otherwise so I can't use things like plex to access it until I tell it I can.
    Originally posted by Rev
    Always worth remembering that linux is at heart a multi-user system. ("Proper" multi-user, rather than one-user-at-a-time like windows.) So it just makes sense that you have to tell it who has access to any particular device that's been plugged in - it doesn't automatically assume that any particular user who happens to be logged in at the time automatically owns everything. (Though some desktop environments do try to make it look that way.)

    And as I mentioned earlier, system utils and daemons typically run in their own user account (for security), so just because you can access things doesn't necessarily mean that they can (and vice versa). But I don't know about plex specifically.

    e.g. I run a thing called tvheadend on an rpi - that runs as user 'hts' and the files it creates (by recording freeview) are owned by that user. So during setup I had to do some configuring to arrange that they can be accessed by, eg, my web server.
    • DavidP24
    • By DavidP24 15th Jun 17, 11:04 AM
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    DavidP24
    Plex is even better when linked with Sonarr for TV shows and Couchpotato for films. These actually name files correctly so they are picked up better.
    Originally posted by rtho782
    Using the default I have only ever had a problem with one programme with over 2000 in my library and that was because series is in multiple countries in same name.


    Always worth remembering that linux is at heart a multi-user system. ("Proper" multi-user, rather than one-user-at-a-time like windows.) So it just makes sense that you have to tell it who has access to any particular device that's been plugged in - it doesn't automatically assume that any particular user who happens to be logged in at the time automatically owns everything. (Though some desktop environments do try to make it look that way.)

    And as I mentioned earlier, system utils and daemons typically run in their own user account (for security), so just because you can access things doesn't necessarily mean that they can (and vice versa). But I don't know about plex specifically.

    e.g. I run a thing called tvheadend on an rpi - that runs as user 'hts' and the files it creates (by recording freeview) are owned by that user. So during setup I had to do some configuring to arrange that they can be accessed by, eg, my web server.
    Originally posted by psychic teabag
    Linux or WIndow7/Server 2003/8 Plex runs the same, you can call thing daemons or processes but it amounts to the same.

    I run Plex as a service under Windows7 and also Windows10, the latter is starting to become too tedious with all the bloat, some versions of Linux are pretty bloated too and way more complicated to use.

    Of course it makes sense for system admins to want granular access control but most mere mortals who plug in an external disk just expect it to work! The windows approach of allowing access unless someone has created permissions makes sense for consumers.
    Last edited by DavidP24; 15-06-2017 at 11:06 AM.
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    • Rev
    • By Rev 15th Jun 17, 2:21 PM
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    have spent the morning googling how to share the drive to the network so I can access it on my desktop and it's baffling me.

    I go to join network or whatever it is, input everything it asks for then it says "Failed to mount Windows share: Invalid argument"

    For the average user I can absolutely see why they just stick with windows. Everything in linux is 100x harder.
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    • Rev
    • By Rev 15th Jun 17, 4:51 PM
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    Now it's changed to failed to mount windows share connection timed out

    There's no way something as simple as sharing a drive on the home network should be this difficult.

    Think I'll just give up and go back to windows. At least I don't have to jump through 100 hoops to do a basic thing like have plex view an external drive or share a drive to the network.

    It's completely exasperating.
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    • toshi
    • By toshi 15th Jun 17, 8:17 PM
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    toshi
    Hahaha, Wow what a progress! Now you are challenging multi OS network environment.

    I would agree that Windows network share is much easier, and Windows is GUI based, which makes user friendly. (But how long have you played with Linux in comparison to Windows?)

    If you want to use this lightweight stable Linux OS, this is not the best place to ask, I really suggest to go to LinuxMint Forum again. You will get an answer in a couple of hours. (Yes, I am learning Linux as well)

    But I just want to assist a bit, as you really go this far, which is really great. A lot of people simply dismiss Linux even they never ever install and use it at all by themselves. How lazy they are, they can install Linux to virtual machine easily within Windows..

    OK, BASICS:

    Windows mapping = Linux mounting.

    In order to mount "network shared folder", firstly you have to create a folder to mount. (Yes, very different, no drive mapping but like folder mounting.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/46183/how-to-map-a-network-drive

    Go Terminal: (Once get used, command is easier. Just copy and paste it, hit enter)

    sudo mkdir /media/Data

    This will create a folder "Data" for mounting.

    Then magic command

    sudo mount -t cifs -o username=raghu //172.29.32.184/sharename /media/Data/

    raghu = Windows user name
    172.29.32.184 = Your Windows network IP
    sharename = your windows share folder name

    (You will be asked a password for Windows)

    I just tested with LinuxMint 18 to access Windows 7 share folder, I accessed from Linixmint VLC player to Windows 7 folder to play some videos.

    You should be able to access /media/Data via your application.

    Go to LinuxMint forum. See you there.

    Happy hacking

    P.S. Performance-wise, it would be better for Plex server directly to connect an external hard disk? So connect external hard disk to Linux or install Plex server to Windows? Whatever you do, hope you will enjoy (with some efforts ?) at this new Linux world.
    Last edited by toshi; 15-06-2017 at 11:11 PM. Reason: minor correction
    • Rev
    • By Rev 15th Jun 17, 11:22 PM
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    Rev
    Hahaha, Wow what a progress! Now you are challenging multi OS network environment.

    I would agree that Windows network share is much easier, and Windows is GUI based, which makes user friendly. (But how long have you played with Linux in comparison to Windows?)

    If you want to use this lightweight stable Linux OS, this is not the best place to ask, I really suggest to go to LinuxMint Forum again. You will get an answer in a couple of hours. (Yes, I am learning Linux as well)

    But I just want to assist a bit, as you really go this far, which is really great. A lot of people simply dismiss Linux even they never ever install and use it at all by themselves. How lazy they are, they can install Linux to virtual machine easily within Windows..

    OK, BASICS:

    Windows mapping = Linux mounting.

    In order to mount "network shared folder", firstly you have to create a folder to mount. (Yes, very different, no drive mapping but like folder mounting.

    https://askubuntu.com/questions/46183/how-to-map-a-network-drive

    Go Terminal: (Once get used, command is easier. Just copy and paste it, hit enter)

    sudo mkdir /media/Data

    This will create a folder "Data" for mounting.

    Then magic command

    sudo mount -t cifs -o username=raghu //172.29.32.184/sharename /media/Data/

    raghu = Windows user name
    172.29.32.184 = Your Windows network IP
    sharename = your windows share folder name

    (You will be asked a password for Windows)

    I just tested with LinuxMint 18 to access Windows 7 share folder, I accessed from Linixmint VLC player to Windows 7 folder to play some videos.

    You should be able to access /media/Data via your application.

    Go to LinuxMint forum. See you there.

    Happy hacking

    P.S. Performance-wise, it would be better for Plex server directly to connect an external hard disk? So connect external hard disk to Linux or install Plex server to Windows? Whatever you do, hope you will enjoy (with some efforts ?) at this new Linux world.
    Originally posted by toshi
    Thanks but I give up. I've wasted an entire day trying to get this drive shared, that's just ridiculous. There is no way it should be this difficult. Followed the manual guide to the letter, still no dice.

    Linux can get in the bin, I don't have the patience for it.
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    • toshi
    • By toshi 16th Jun 17, 12:33 AM
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    toshi
    Thanks but I give up. I've wasted an entire day trying to get this drive shared, that's just ridiculous. There is no way it should be this difficult. Followed the manual guide to the letter, still no dice.

    Linux can get in the bin, I don't have the patience for it.
    Originally posted by Rev
    Mmm, it was too late, you didn't have to struggle alone. But you really have challenged multi OS network environment, which isn't super easy one. This would happens between Windows, Mac, Linux etc.

    Anyway, hope you enjoy Plex server streaming.
    • emptybox
    • By emptybox 16th Jun 17, 11:17 AM
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    emptybox
    You can definitely get that kind of setup to work on Linux with some perseverance.

    At one time I had an old desktop PC running Ubuntu, with a 2 TB external drive connected to it, which I shared to my network PCs, Windows Linux and Apple.
    But it does require editing of configuration files.
    You need to edit fstab to mount the external drive in the file system at boot up, and you probably need to edit the Samba configuration file as well to tweak permissions etc.

    Worked flawlessly for a couple of years until I switched, first to a drive connected to the router by USB, and now an ethernet connected NAS.
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