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    • fred246
    • By fred246 11th Jun 17, 10:04 PM
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    Why don't men do core exercises?
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    • 11th Jun 17, 10:04 PM
    Why don't men do core exercises? 11th Jun 17 at 10:04 PM
    I went to a high intensity class this morning. I think it was roughly half men and half women. I stayed on for the core exercises. There were two men and ten women and then he ran off leaving me with ten ladies in lycra. I mean who wants that? You feel like the odd one out. The instructor said one of the exercises would help me look good in a bikini? I wasn't impressed by that. I thought core exercises were supposed to be important.
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    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 11th Jun 17, 10:46 PM
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    What is a core exercise?
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    • Mr.Generous
    • By Mr.Generous 11th Jun 17, 10:51 PM
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    Abs, try planking for 60 seconds see what your core muscle strength is like.
    • parking_question_chap
    • By parking_question_chap 11th Jun 17, 11:42 PM
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    it was roughly half men and half women. I stayed on for the core exercises. There were two men and ten women and then he ran off leaving me with ten ladies
    Originally posted by fred246
    Well which one was it?

    I dont think you can make assumptions on man kind based on the actions of somwhere between one and five men.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 12th Jun 17, 12:00 AM
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    The HIT is only for 30 mins. Very popular with men & women. Then they start the core exercises and I think oh good that'll do me good. All the men then run out. Should I just follow them and accept it's only for women?
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    • By asajj 12th Jun 17, 12:21 AM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 12:21 AM
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    Well, it is not only for women that's for sure. Perhaps they prefer to exercise on the gym floor rather than a core class? Why is it so important to you? Just do it if you wish to work your core.
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    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 12th Jun 17, 7:17 AM
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    So your instructor has the emotional intelligence of a gnat.

    So long as they can guide you through learning the exercises and prevent you doing yourself harm, worth sticking with for a few weeks and then mentioning to the gym management - if the unthinking sexism continues.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 12th Jun 17, 7:38 AM
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    It's complex why anybody is in any particular class. If a class has two activities many people will only be interested in one part. Maybe the other men had better things to do with their time.

    Don't you want to look good in a bikini?
    • Lukoind
    • By Lukoind 13th Jun 17, 10:35 AM
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    Probably, because most men get lower back pain, while doing core exercises. As this case is mine and I'm trying to fix sitting posture by strengthening glutes in order to do core exercises without pain.
    • AirJoe
    • By AirJoe 13th Jun 17, 12:17 PM
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    I mean, it's got to be better than looking bad in a bikini, right?

    The psychology of exercise is complex but it basically comes down perceived outcomes aligning with personal goals. What do you see as being the outcome of the ab class? Flatter stomach? Six pack? The ability to stand or lie completely rigid for minutes at a time? If you think those will be the outcomes and one or more of those aligns with your personal goals then you're more likely to attend.

    It sounds like the blokes in your class either don't share your goals or don't believe the class will achieve the same things that you do.
    Last edited by AirJoe; 13-06-2017 at 12:24 PM.
    • Malthusian
    • By Malthusian 13th Jun 17, 4:03 PM
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    if the unthinking sexism continues.
    Originally posted by DigForVictory
    What sexism? How do you know fred wouldn't look good in a bikini if he keeps working on the six-pack?

    Anyway, the answer to the OP's question is clearly that women have more endurance than men and the poor lambs are all knackered after half an hour's rigorous training. If he is afraid that everyone will suspect him of being a pervert for being the only man in a room full of women doing downward dog, then my advice is to go in drag.
    • parking_question_chap
    • By parking_question_chap 13th Jun 17, 10:44 PM
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    Probably, because most men get lower back pain, while doing core exercises.
    Originally posted by Lukoind
    And this is based on?
    • Lukoind
    • By Lukoind 14th Jun 17, 8:11 AM
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    And this is based on?
    Originally posted by parking_question_chap
    My own experience. From office work, sitting all day. You get anterior pelvic tilt, which puts pressure on your lower back. From my personal experience I'm like 60% way fixing this condition by myself, by just doing excersises like barbell glute bridges and etc. Hope it helps for you!
    • UKTigerlily
    • By UKTigerlily 15th Jun 17, 2:04 PM
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    Women love things like sit ups as they wrongly believe it affects belly fat, men believe if they do sit ups etc they turn into women. Just how it is in gyms, most females use the cardio/watch tv but never pick a heavy barbell up, which is what most need to do, and most men avoid yoga/flexibility etc which would help them (obviously *some* women do lift, and *some* men do yoga etc)

    I would love to see you in a bikini, keep at it!
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    • benten69
    • By benten69 26th Jun 17, 2:28 PM
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    My own experience. From office work, sitting all day. You get anterior pelvic tilt, which puts pressure on your lower back. From my personal experience I'm like 60% way fixing this condition by myself, by just doing excersises like barbell glute bridges and etc. Hope it helps for you!
    Originally posted by Lukoind
    I sit in an office all day every day and I do not have an anterior pelvic tilt, nor do I suffer lower back pain when doing core exercises .As a matter of fact, core exercises are high on my list, as I need to be fit and use a lot of core muscles when riding my (motor)bike on track.

    So just because you suffer from back pain and pelvic tilt it does not mean "most men" do. Your experience does not reflect everyone else and neither does mine. So you should refrain from using your own individual experience to provide a blanket statement of "most men".
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    • EdSwippet
    • By EdSwippet 27th Jun 17, 10:47 AM
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    Okay, I'll bite.

    I am male, 56yo, 5ft8in and 10stone, so average height and weight. I don't wear a bikini. In a week I do these classes: 30min pure core, 90min yoga, 2x60min pilates, 45min spin, 60min bodypump (weights) and 60min bodybalance ("power" yoga-ish). All except for one emphasise core work. It is rare for any other male to attend most of these. Any that does will have had this recommended by their doctor. They will usually drop out between two and six weeks, never to be seen again.

    I started all this early last year after giving up work, as an antidote to RSI and postural issues from 40+ years of desk work. Having a lot of time to devote to it obviously makes it far more accessible. Before I started I hadn't even heard of, or considered, that keeping 'core muscles' in good shape was crucial. The typical gym stereotype for me was either lifting weights or cross-trainers. No particular core focus there.

    I would say I am now in the best shape of my life, barring perhaps a golden era in my mid teens when I did a decent amount of swimming training. Good flexibility and decent strength. I still take stairs two at a time, move heavy loads effortlessly, and don't get winded digging the garden or cutting the grass. I wasn't obese or even particularly out of shape before I started all this, but nevertheless I really don't want to go back to my 'before', as I feel so much better in general. 20min on a cross-trainer feels like 5hr to me. In contrast, 60min in a studio class feels like 20min, even though I have to work harder in it.

    So why don't more men do this? Malthusian's flippant comment is probably more on the mark than you might think. Women have intrinsically more flexibility, so will find yoga and pilates easier than men in general. Men have larger upper-body strength though, so plank and push-ups present less of a problem. Marketing also plays a part. Look at any promotional picture of a gym studio exercise class and you'll see a clutch of attractive women at the front, and maybe one or at most two men at the far back of the picture just to prove it's really not just for women. Also, yoga and pilates just don't look as "hard" as pumping iron.

    I did classes at work before I left, and there the ratio was about 60-70% in favour of women, so much more balanced than at my local gym. This could be a demographic thing -- my workmates were mostly in their 20s and 30s, and at the daytime in my gym my co-attendees are more likely in their 50s and perhaps 60s (because it's daytime and we don't work any more).

    As for the intimidation factor of being the only man in a group of 20+ women. I've learned to ignore it, and at times even celebrate it. Perhaps the women just think of me now as some sort of 'testosterone mascot'. Don't care. It's doing me a lot of good, so I'll stick with it. Fred246, do the same -- if it works for you and you enjoy it, keep going. Maybe you'll provide other men with the courage to join you. (I haven't, so far!)
    Last edited by EdSwippet; 27-06-2017 at 10:50 AM.
    • Blackbeard of Perranporth
    • By Blackbeard of Perranporth 27th Jun 17, 12:12 PM
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    I cannot repeat my thoughts on being alone with ten ladies in lycra as BoPsie would be sure down to the solicitor in seconds!
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    • HBFS
    • By HBFS 4th Jul 17, 5:09 PM
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    Because core classes aren't for everyone. I personally would rather work on my core my own way and pace.
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    • EdSwippet
    • By EdSwippet 5th Jul 17, 9:37 AM
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    Because core classes aren't for everyone. I personally would rather work on my core my own way and pace.
    Originally posted by HBFS
    Why would any preference for group or individual core exercise not be gender-neutral?
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    • By HBFS 5th Jul 17, 5:26 PM
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    Why would any preference for group or individual core exercise not be gender-neutral?
    Originally posted by EdSwippet
    The question was asked about men. I answered as a man. That was the entire thing.
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