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    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 11th Jun 17, 1:10 PM
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    Neighbours ball damaging fence.
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    • 11th Jun 17, 1:10 PM
    Neighbours ball damaging fence. 11th Jun 17 at 1:10 PM
    So I'm in a situation where the neighbors at the rear, children and father, pound a heavy football against the fence. Its my mothers property.

    Its been agitating her, and has caused damage to the fence. There's a bench at the back where she likes to sit, now she can't do that without the fence sounding like someones taken a hammer to it.

    I'll be checking the deeds on Monday to see who owns the fence. I'll take pictures of the damage, and then knock on the door and politely ask that they stop, as they have damaged the fence and are causing agitation.

    Failing that, it will have to be a solicitors letter. I'd rather it didn't go that far.

    Any shared experience on a similar matter or additional things I could do would be appreciated.
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 11th Jun 17, 1:15 PM
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    • 11th Jun 17, 1:15 PM
    Have a chat over tea and cake.

    (with the neighbours, not your mother!).

    In my mum's similar case, we ofered to pay for a new, strengthened, fence.

    Another option could be to build a 2nd fence inside your mum's bounday.

    But the ideal is to pursade the kids to use the opposite fence for their games, or go to the park.

    Lots of options. Tea and cake.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 11th Jun 17, 1:16 PM
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    • 11th Jun 17, 1:16 PM
    Meanwhile, gather as many glass bottles as you can and then get dodgy/inadequate hooks to enable them to hang off the fence on your side, put paving slabs under them. When it happens, rush out to hang them all up ... and wait.

    It won't be long before the bottles smash .... and she can shout out and go "Oi I'm sitting here and you've smashed my garden features"

    Dim people with inadequate brain cells have no idea that all fences have two sides....
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 11th Jun 17, 1:22 PM
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    I'm going to be as polite and reasonable about it as possible in the early stages, my mum actually lives by herself and I'm not always around. He doesn't look like a thug or anything, but you never know.

    I'm actually in favor of kids talking exercise in their gardens, but it shouldn't be at the expense of others obviously.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 11th Jun 17, 8:14 PM
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    • 11th Jun 17, 8:14 PM
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    Just a quick word to say that the deeds may not tell you who owns the fence; in fact they're unlikely to be of much help unless the houses and the fences are quite new.

    Property title documents may say who is responsible for which boundary, but that's what they record: boundaries, not fences. The fence may follow the boundary, of course, but there is no legal requirement for a fence. Any kind of marker would do.

    So, with established properties, fences belong to whoever erected them.
    'A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they'll never sit in.'
    • Ithaca
    • By Ithaca 12th Jun 17, 12:05 AM
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    • 12th Jun 17, 12:05 AM
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    Our rear neighbours do exactly the same thing, to the point where there is now a reasonably large hole in the fence.

    I've taken the view that as I have a four year old boy and a one year old boy the situation is likely to be reversed in about 5 years' time, so our neighbours will find out about the concept of karma in due course.

    The option I will probably take, however, is to sink some tree posts in front of the fence where the goalposts are which should prevent a majority of shots hitting the fence.
    • sparky130a
    • By sparky130a 12th Jun 17, 5:29 AM
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    As suggested, tea and cake. Make your point then..

    And the coup de gras...

    Produce a brand new shiny fluorescent football.....


    http://www.discountfootballkits.com/Footballs?gclid=CODf-9S7t9QCFdMW0wodiv4AsA

    Damn sight cheaper than a solicitor...

    But of course on the understanding they start playing fair....
    • hammy1988
    • By hammy1988 12th Jun 17, 9:11 AM
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    Anti climbing paint all over the fence it never dries so will cover and stickily ruin the football...and anything it touches such as clothing and shoes mwahaha. Might soon put them off!
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 12th Jun 17, 9:18 AM
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    Anti climbing paint all over the fence it never dries so will cover and stickily ruin the football...and anything it touches such as clothing and shoes mwahaha. Might soon put them off!
    Originally posted by hammy1988
    That's more likely to lead to retaliation, which the OP's mother doesn't need and wouldn't necessarily cope well with.

    We can all think of nuclear options.

    Tea, cake and the promise of a new football every few months if it stops is route 1.

    Routes 2, 3, 4 etc are much more expensive, but none of them ought to involve putting something as nasty as anti-vandal paint on the footballer's side.
    'A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they'll never sit in.'
    • Mardle
    • By Mardle 12th Jun 17, 9:22 AM
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    As suggested, tea and cake. Make your point then..

    And the coup de gras...

    Produce a brand new shiny fluorescent football.....


    http://www.discountfootballkits.com/Footballs?gclid=CODf-9S7t9QCFdMW0wodiv4AsA

    Damn sight cheaper than a solicitor...

    But of course on the understanding they start playing fair....
    Originally posted by sparky130a
    They've obviously got a football so maybe one of these would be better. http://www.argos.co.uk/product/2968456
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    • By sparky130a 12th Jun 17, 9:25 AM
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    They've obviously got a football so maybe one of these would be better. http://www.argos.co.uk/product/2968456
    Originally posted by Mardle
    Indeed.

    But my point stands.
    • ReadingTim
    • By ReadingTim 12th Jun 17, 10:50 AM
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    Suggest you repair whatever damage the football has caused to the fence. With some sharp nails. That poke through to the other side....
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 12th Jun 17, 11:20 AM
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    So I'm in a situation where the neighbors at the rear, children and father, pound a heavy football against the fence. Its my mothers property.

    Its been agitating her, and has caused damage to the fence. There's a bench at the back where she likes to sit, now she can't do that without the fence sounding like someones taken a hammer to it.

    I'll be checking the deeds on Monday to see who owns the fence. I'll take pictures of the damage, and then knock on the door and politely ask that they stop, as they have damaged the fence and are causing agitation.

    Failing that, it will have to be a solicitors letter. I'd rather it didn't go that far.

    Any shared experience on a similar matter or additional things I could do would be appreciated.
    Originally posted by PhilE
    The deeds wont show who owns the fence, so you need to clarify with your mum who put it up
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 12th Jun 17, 12:28 PM
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    Thanks for the suggestions all. The fence was actually erected by the neighbors to the right of my mums property when facing it. Had a chat with them and they payed for the whole of the fence to the rear, which covers all of their rear garden and half of my mums.
    They have damage to their fence also, and are not too happy about it.

    You can get football nets for less than £40; more fun for the kids, no noise for the neighbors and no damage to fences. Really cant understand why the father doesn't simply invest in one of those.

    I will try the 'tea and cake,' approach and suggest this.
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 12th Jun 17, 12:29 PM
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    Thanks for the suggestions all. The fence was actually erected by the neighbors to the right of my mums property when facing it. Had a chat with them and they payed for the whole of the fence to the rear, which covers all of their rear garden and half of my mums.
    They have damage to their fence also, and are not too happy about it.

    You can get football nets for less than £40; more fun for the kids, no noise for the neighbors and no damage to fences. Really cant understand why the father doesn't simply invest in one of those.

    I will try the 'tea and cake,' approach and suggest this.
    Originally posted by PhilE


    In which case only those neighbours have a claim
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 12th Jun 17, 5:09 PM
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    In which case only those neighbours have a claim
    Originally posted by Guest101
    Fence at rear of two houses.
    • PhilE
    • By PhilE 12th Jun 17, 5:11 PM
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    That's more likely to lead to retaliation, which the OP's mother doesn't need and wouldn't necessarily cope well with.

    We can all think of nuclear options.

    Tea, cake and the promise of a new football every few months if it stops is route 1.

    Routes 2, 3, 4 etc are much more expensive, but none of them ought to involve putting something as nasty as anti-vandal paint on the footballer's side.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    Yes its necessary to try the 'nice,' options first if its your elderly parent involved, and you don't live there. I do have to consider retaliation when I'm not around.
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 12th Jun 17, 5:20 PM
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    Fence at rear of two houses.
    Originally posted by PhilE
    What?


    Look, only the owners of the fence have a claim.


    Just like I cant claim for damage for your car.


    It's simple property ownership law.
    • BrassicWoman
    • By BrassicWoman 12th Jun 17, 5:30 PM
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    buy them a football net? (and cake)
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    • yoshiyella
    • By yoshiyella 12th Jun 17, 5:59 PM
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    For those people saying buy a football net - I used to play football with my brother and Dad in our garden. We had a football net. The ball still hit the fence! Apologies I don't have any other suggestions other than the be nice approach.

    I don't know your area but the difficulties we had as children was that it was the back garden or nothing as the land around us had those wonderful signs saying "No ball games".

    Not sure how old these children are but I'm sure you can get balls that are soft play ( a harder type of sponge ball) so has less impact on the fence.
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