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    • gillsmills
    • By gillsmills 7th Jun 17, 2:32 PM
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    computer help request
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    • 7th Jun 17, 2:32 PM
    computer help request 7th Jun 17 at 2:32 PM
    At present I am operating on Windows XP ...yes I know well out of date....am looking to get a new desktop computer with a more modern and up to date operating system, I am also using an I pad air too. Would somebody please give me some advice on what would be a good pc to consider, I just need it for internet, email, and job applications as I will be looking for a new job about September time. I'd also like recommendations on a printer too so that I can print from my I pad and desktop too, thanks in anticipation.
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    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 10th Jun 17, 10:27 PM
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    WAYT I think they should take your advice and give the difference to Charity, I will never understand why people spend so much money, some even buy them on credit.

    Even when I have loads of money I am still tight.
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    No pockets in shrouds.....What exactly are you hoarding money for?
    I'll never understand people with hoards of money that scrimp over everything.
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
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    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 10th Jun 17, 10:43 PM
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    Still a useful thread, as they might take note of lack of the necessity of spending such a large amount on a new PC. The STONE PC would more than suffice for their needs. Certainly more powerful than any PC that I own and I am not wanting for PC performance.
    Together with a new 23" IPS monitor, a less than a £250 spend to include an Wireless AC USB network adaptor.
    Originally posted by WAYT
    and its more powerful than my current 10 year old Dell Vostro 200. that in 10 years only mechanical failure was the power switch 3 years ago which only cost me £20 to get fixed by a local PC repair store, but i have upgraded it as much as i can and takes approx. 3 goes to boot it up in the morning
    • were
    • By were 10th Jun 17, 11:28 PM
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    No pockets in shrouds.....What exactly are you hoarding money for?
    I'll never understand people with hoards of money that scrimp over everything.
    Originally posted by RumRat
    Er.... this is MONEYSAVINGEXPERT site? Do you expect to go to an auto site, and think they teach you how to bake? How do you think people get hoards of cash?
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 10th Jun 17, 11:50 PM
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    WAYT I think they should take your advice and give the difference to Charity, I will never understand why people spend so much money, some even buy them on credit.

    Even when I have loads of money I am still tight.
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    i saw a laptop in the window of Brighthouse the other day £300. with their weekly payment plan you would be paying just under £1000 and i bet people with buy them
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 10th Jun 17, 11:56 PM
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    No pockets in shrouds.....What exactly are you hoarding money for?
    I'll never understand people with hoards of money that scrimp over everything.
    Originally posted by RumRat
    Just because you have money why should you get ripped off

    People say shop local, now i shop with my wallet. I checked a local PC store for a PC and they quoted me £320, but had to wait a few days for them to get 1 in stock, but as i have the make and model i did a google search and found the same machine for £220, so why should i pay 320 if i can get the same thing for 220
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 11th Jun 17, 12:37 AM
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    Er.... this is MONEYSAVINGEXPERT site? Do you expect to go to an auto site, and think they teach you how to bake? How do you think people get hoards of cash?
    Originally posted by were
    Er.....I think you missed the point entirely....
    I don't give a fig if you scrimp and scrape for whatever obscure reason.
    Personally I save money to buy decent things. I see no point to saving money otherwise.
    Which is why I wouldn't buy a cheap banger just because it can drive me from A - B as well as a nice car could.
    Sometimes, it's nice to not have to just do...............
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
    A PIRATE
    Not an Alcoholic...!
    • DavidP24
    • By DavidP24 11th Jun 17, 1:16 AM
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    No pockets in shrouds.....What exactly are you hoarding money for?
    I'll never understand people with hoards of money that scrimp over everything.
    Originally posted by RumRat
    Hoards? I WISH

    The word "WHEN" that I used meant that my income for a given month or month vastly exceeded my outgoings and left me flush enough to waste £500 on a computer.

    I do not hoard anything.
    Thanks, don't you just hate people with sigs !
    • DavidP24
    • By DavidP24 11th Jun 17, 1:20 AM
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    i saw a laptop in the window of Brighthouse the other day £300. with their weekly payment plan you would be paying just under £1000 and i bet people with buy them
    Originally posted by angryparcel
    I have a real problem with that company, they take advantage of people who are on very low incomes who do not have ability to really understand the finances or the impact.

    They do the same thing with cookers, TV's, Fridges.

    Fact is the people that shop is aiming at can get all they need from Freecycle, just not instantly.
    Thanks, don't you just hate people with sigs !
    • Sicard
    • By Sicard 11th Jun 17, 8:40 AM
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    Obviously, you not being able to join in the discussion is proving to be a difficulty for you.
    Perhaps you could articulate your problems and possibly, obtain some assistance in resolving them.
    Originally posted by RumRat

    It's not difficult as you so succinctly put it it's just mildly irritating when people take a particular os and treat it as though it's some kind of religious belief and spout on about 'I've never known such a wonderful creation in my entire life and I've never had any problems with it so everyone else must be wrong', whilst completely ignoring the fact that 100s (if not 1000s) of people have experienced problems.

    I've already linked to my problem but here it is:

    After reloading W10 due to it being unable to restore any points I then installed the huge Creative update after being told this would fix it which I believe the Autumn update caused the facility to restore defunct. Now I can't open any jpeg picture just by double-clicking on it. I can by opening a photo inside any viewing app program but not by double-clicking it. Even after making any app a default it still doesn't open the jpeg. The app default window springs up every time I tick the box and asks 'how do you want to open this file?' and I tick the 'always use this app to open jpeg files' box but nothing else happens apart from the desktop refreshing and the window opening again. I've run the troubleshooter for installed apps and it told me there is a problem. Then it told me 'not fixed'. I ran a sfc but there's nothing wrong.

    I've tried the Powershell fix for photos but the problem remains. I've made Photos the default app in the settings too for opening photos but the problem remains. I've run the apps troubleshooter downloaded from M$ which said there was corruption and afterwards it said 'fixed'. But the problem remains.

    Any ideas?
    Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
    Isaac Asimov
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 11th Jun 17, 9:13 AM
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    I have a real problem with that company, they take advantage of people who are on very low incomes who do not have ability to really understand the finances or the impact.

    They do the same thing with cookers, TV's, Fridges.

    Fact is the people that shop is aiming at can get all they need from Freecycle, just not instantly.
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    Yes and because they do not carry out checks then the prices are that high as they take the risk, i would like to see their ratio of defaulters as i bet it is high.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 11th Jun 17, 9:21 AM
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    It's not difficult as you so succinctly put it it's just mildly irritating when people take a particular os and treat it as though it's some kind of religious belief and spout on about 'I've never known such a wonderful creation in my entire life and I've never had any problems with it so everyone else must be wrong', whilst completely ignoring the fact that 100s (if not 1000s) of people have experienced problems.

    I've already linked to my problem but here it is:

    After reloading W10 due to it being unable to restore any points I then installed the huge Creative update after being told this would fix it which I believe the Autumn update caused the facility to restore defunct. Now I can't open any jpeg picture just by double-clicking on it. I can by opening a photo inside any viewing app program but not by double-clicking it. Even after making any app a default it still doesn't open the jpeg. The app default window springs up every time I tick the box and asks 'how do you want to open this file?' and I tick the 'always use this app to open jpeg files' box but nothing else happens apart from the desktop refreshing and the window opening again. I've run the troubleshooter for installed apps and it told me there is a problem. Then it told me 'not fixed'. I ran a sfc but there's nothing wrong.

    I've tried the Powershell fix for photos but the problem remains. I've made Photos the default app in the settings too for opening photos but the problem remains. I've run the apps troubleshooter downloaded from M$ which said there was corruption and afterwards it said 'fixed'. But the problem remains.

    Any ideas?
    Originally posted by Sicard
    but the fact is some people like it and some people hate it, just like every OS, because you have issues does not mean everyone has issues.
    My PC is 10 year old and runs win 10 perfectly without any issues.
    I have win 10 Pro 15063.296 installed
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 11th Jun 17, 10:02 AM
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    RumRat
    It's not difficult as you so succinctly put it it's just mildly irritating when people take a particular os and treat it as though it's some kind of religious belief and spout on about 'I've never known such a wonderful creation in my entire life and I've never had any problems with it so everyone else must be wrong',
    Originally posted by Sicard
    Mmmmm, so evangelising over Windows 7 doesn't count then?
    Pointing out that the problem isn't a universal one, isn't treating it 'like some kind of religious belief'. I have machines with W10 and W7. I've had problems with both, but, managed to sort them eventually.
    If you don't agree then fine, but, getting stressed on a forum isn't going to do you any good.
    You haven't said, if you did apologies for missing it, have you tried a clean install?
    Yes, I know you shouldn't have to, but, sometimes needs etc...
    I note that this problem has been experienced on other variations of windows.
    What happens when you right click and choose 'Open with' then try double click?
    I don't have an answer to your specific problem, sorry, but, I'll mess around for a while and see if I can find anything to help. That said, I'm sure your knowledge of the inner workings is better than mine.
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
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    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 11th Jun 17, 10:21 AM
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    an issue that happens to loads of scripts and not just OS is when installing/upgrading sometimes files are missing, this can happen due to minor interruptions during installation/upgrading that you may not notice (considering win 10 takes a few hrs to install/upgrade this is the most obvious reason) so a fresh install is the best option.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 11th Jun 17, 10:24 AM
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    It's not difficult as you so succinctly put it it's just mildly irritating when people take a particular os and treat it as though it's some kind of religious belief and spout on about 'I've never known such a wonderful creation in my entire life and I've never had any problems with it so everyone else must be wrong', whilst completely ignoring the fact that 100s (if not 1000s) of people have experienced problems.

    I've already linked to my problem but here it is:

    After reloading W10 due to it being unable to restore any points I then installed the huge Creative update after being told this would fix it which I believe the Autumn update caused the facility to restore defunct. Now I can't open any jpeg picture just by double-clicking on it. I can by opening a photo inside any viewing app program but not by double-clicking it. Even after making any app a default it still doesn't open the jpeg. The app default window springs up every time I tick the box and asks 'how do you want to open this file?' and I tick the 'always use this app to open jpeg files' box but nothing else happens apart from the desktop refreshing and the window opening again. I've run the troubleshooter for installed apps and it told me there is a problem. Then it told me 'not fixed'. I ran a sfc but there's nothing wrong.

    I've tried the Powershell fix for photos but the problem remains. I've made Photos the default app in the settings too for opening photos but the problem remains. I've run the apps troubleshooter downloaded from M$ which said there was corruption and afterwards it said 'fixed'. But the problem remains.

    Any ideas?
    Originally posted by Sicard
    maybe this will help you
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-files/double-click-will-not-open-image-files-must-right/c542451f-c7f2-4823-b9a6-37f94220c26b
    • toshi
    • By toshi 11th Jun 17, 12:13 PM
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    I'd forget all the above and buy one of these (I did) @£500

    Looks good, only one plug, 1 box will do everything you want.

    http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=W3A67EA&opt=ABU&sel=DTP

    HP 22-b030na All-in-One (White)
    • Windows 10 Home 64
    • Intel® Core™ i3-6100U processor
    • 54.6 cm (21.5") diagonal Full-HD (1920 x 1080) display
    • 8GB RAM and 1TB storage
    • USB Keyboard and Mouse
    Originally posted by Tiexen
    Repairability is very low, if you don't get a screen, you cannot even test with another monitor to test the screen. You cannot perform a very basic simple diagnostics. I am not happy about it. Computer is not a black box.

    Upgradability is very low, this PC never expect users to replace a sluggish hard disk to an SSD in 10-15 min for instance. Basically this is same as a shield TV. If any problem, dump it ? I really do not like this kind of disposable IT business.

    At 2017, a brand new computer without an SSD (option) means that categorically, I would say, RIPPING OFF!

    You cannot find an SSD preinstalled brand new computer at reasonable price? Then, DON'T BUY IT. There is alternative. Save money, better performance, understand computer basic confidently ?

    Lucky enough, we have got some hard-core MSE computer experts here. Ask them until you understand fully.
    Last edited by toshi; 11-06-2017 at 4:06 PM. Reason: minor correction
    • Sicard
    • By Sicard 12th Jun 17, 8:42 AM
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    Sicard
    but the fact is some people like it and some people hate it, just like every OS, because you have issues does not mean everyone has issues.
    My PC is 10 year old and runs win 10 perfectly without any issues.
    I have win 10 Pro 15063.296 installed
    Originally posted by angryparcel
    I believe you, I really do.

    Mmmmm, so evangelising over Windows 7 doesn't count then?
    Pointing out that the problem isn't a universal one, isn't treating it 'like some kind of religious belief'. I have machines with W10 and W7. I've had problems with both, but, managed to sort them eventually.
    If you don't agree then fine, but, getting stressed on a forum isn't going to do you any good.
    You haven't said, if you did apologies for missing it, have you tried a clean install?
    Yes, I know you shouldn't have to, but, sometimes needs etc...
    I note that this problem has been experienced on other variations of windows.
    What happens when you right click and choose 'Open with' then try double click?
    I don't have an answer to your specific problem, sorry, but, I'll mess around for a while and see if I can find anything to help. That said, I'm sure your knowledge of the inner workings is better than mine.
    Originally posted by RumRat

    Ah, but I haven't banged on about it like some pulpit-basher like you and you W10 worshipping mates/multi-usernames.

    Who said I was getting stressed? I said I was mildy irritated.

    I tried the right-click thingy but still no go.

    Thanks for the offer but it's not a huge problem. In the bigger picture terrorists attacks and British politics are probably more important issues to resolve.
    Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
    Isaac Asimov
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 12th Jun 17, 9:18 AM
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    Any ideas?
    Originally posted by Sicard

    Open regedit


    go here : HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\she ll


    Inside shell, create a new key called openwpv


    On the right side, double click the new key (default) and put a suitable name, eg Open with Windows Photo Viewer


    Now, under OPENWPV, create a new key called command
    Set its value to


    %SystemRoot%\System32\rundll32.exe "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Photo Viewer\PhotoViewer.dll", ImageView_Fullscreen %1


    Again under OPENWPV, create a new key called DropTarget

    On the right side, create new string CLSID and set its value to {FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}

    Now, when you RIGHT click a picture file, you will get the option "Open with Windows Photo Viewer" Or whatever you called it in step 1.


    Hope that helps a bit
    Running with scissors since 1978
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 12th Jun 17, 9:36 AM
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    I believe you, I really do.




    Ah, but I haven't banged on about it like some pulpit-basher like you and you W10 worshipping mates/multi-usernames.

    Who said I was getting stressed? I said I was mildy irritated.

    I tried the right-click thingy but still no go.

    Thanks for the offer but it's not a huge problem. In the bigger picture terrorists attacks and British politics are probably more important issues to resolve.
    Originally posted by Sicard
    You'll be popping off to a forum about Terrorist attacks and British politics then?
    Seems you've run out of anything to say and have resorted to insults.
    A bit meaningless on an anonymous forum, but, if it's what you need to get through the day, more power to you.
    I hope you resolve your problem, Andy's advice seems like it could help. Good luck.
    Drinking Rum before 10am makes you
    A PIRATE
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    • Sicard
    • By Sicard 13th Jun 17, 9:04 AM
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    Sicard
    You'll be popping off to a forum about Terrorist attacks and British politics then?
    Seems you've run out of anything to say and have resorted to insults.
    A bit meaningless on an anonymous forum, but, if it's what you need to get through the day, more power to you.
    I hope you resolve your problem, Andy's advice seems like it could help. Good luck.
    Originally posted by RumRat

    Silly boy. Go and have a rum and take your sniping with you.
    Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
    Isaac Asimov
    • Sicard
    • By Sicard 13th Jun 17, 9:06 AM
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    Sicard
    Open regedit


    go here : HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\she ll


    Inside shell, create a new key called openwpv


    On the right side, double click the new key (default) and put a suitable name, eg Open with Windows Photo Viewer


    Now, under OPENWPV, create a new key called command
    Set its value to


    %SystemRoot%\System32\rundll32.exe "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Photo Viewer\PhotoViewer.dll", ImageView_Fullscreen %1


    Again under OPENWPV, create a new key called DropTarget

    On the right side, create new string CLSID and set its value to {FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}

    Now, when you RIGHT click a picture file, you will get the option "Open with Windows Photo Viewer" Or whatever you called it in step 1.


    Hope that helps a bit
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    Thanks for the time Andy.

    I don't seem to have that entry in my registry.

    Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
    Isaac Asimov
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