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    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 7th Jun 17, 12:47 PM
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    Fifth Edition of the IPC’s Code of Practice
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    • 7th Jun 17, 12:47 PM
    Fifth Edition of the IPC’s Code of Practice 7th Jun 17 at 12:47 PM
    Can't see anything on this so here are the changes from the 1/10/2016 version to version 6 (1st April 2017)

    Part A

    Part A: 4.7 Breach of the conditions of the Code and any applicable laws will render you liable to our disciplinary procedures as set out in schedule 2.

    Changed to

    Part A: 4.7 Breach of the conditions of the Code will render you liable to our disciplinary procedures as set out in schedule 2

    Part B

    Added para 18. Operators Making vehicle keeper enquiries using the KADOE system.

    Where operators make enquiries for vehicle keeper data under the KADOE (Keeper at Date of Event) system, they should do so in accordance with the ‘Guidance for private car parking operators, Making a vehicle keeper enquiry using the KADOE system’ guide of October 2016 and as revised from time to time. It is important to note that the guidance requires the operator to hold photographic evidence of a parking event at the time that any such application is made. Where, for any reason, photographic evidence is not held, such an enquiry should be made through the DVLA’s manual application process.

    Added para 19. Period of Parking:

    Parking operators must ensure that they only issue parking charges in accordance with their advertised terms on any site. Such terms shall not entitle any operator to issue more than one parking charge in the same calendar day for the same parking event. In the event of a new calendar day the operator must not issue a further parking charge for the same parking event within a 12 hour period from when the previous parking charge was issued. Where a vehicle is moved at any point, this constitutes a new parking event.


    Part C

    Part C: 1.9 Any Keeper Data supplied to you must be handled and processed strictly in accordance with all applicable legal directions.

    Changed to

    Part C: 1.9 Any Keeper Data supplied to you should be handled and processed strictly in accordance with all applicable legal directions.

    Part C: 1.10 Failure to abide by any applicable laws relating to data handling is viewed seriously by the IPC and will be considered a serious issue of non-compliance.

    Changed to

    Part C:1.10 Failure to abide by any applicable laws relating to data handling may be considered an issue of non-compliance.

    Part D

    Added

    Part D: 1.3 Operators are not required to use the keeper liability provisions within the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 on land to which it applies. These provisions complement the common-law position which may be used to establish liability for a parking charge irrespective of whether the Act applies or not. Where an operator chooses not to rely upon the Act, the time limits and notice requirements therein do not apply.


    Changes to Schedule 5 – Parking Charges & Enforcement

    Parking charges must not exceed Ł100 unless agreed in advance with the IPC. appropriate on the signage and/or other documentation.

    Where a Parking Charge becomes overdue a reasonable sum may be added. This sum must not exceed Ł60 (inclusive of VAT where applicable) unless Court Proceedings have been initiated. Before issuing court proceedings on any unpaid parking charge which is over 12 months old, the operator must first perform a suitable check of the defendant’s last known address.


    Changed to

    Schedule 5 – Parking Charges

    It is suggested the maximum parking charge should be: Ł100. appropriate on the signage and/or other documentation
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    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 7th Jun 17, 1:15 PM
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    In other words ... here's some more-relaxed terms in our code of practice, as the previous ones weren't relaxed enough for you.
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    • safarmuk
    • By safarmuk 7th Jun 17, 1:20 PM
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    • 7th Jun 17, 1:20 PM
    In other words ... here's some more-relaxed terms in our code of practice, as the previous ones weren't relaxed enough for you.
    Yeah, I was thinking that. The word I was about to use was "watered down" ...

    What's the betting these clowns start putting the invoice up to Ł140 reduced to Ł100 if paid within 14 days soon ...
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 7th Jun 17, 2:11 PM
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    What's the betting these clowns start putting the invoice up to Ł140 reduced to Ł100 if paid within 14 days soon ..
    It will need to be Ł166.66 for a 40% reduction to bring it down to Ł100!

    Why not, eh? After all, it's now only a 'suggested' figure. Who'll be first to break rank? A big one, or a small-fry to test the water. No doubt a meeting at High Leigh Park Golf Club is imminent!
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    • safarmuk
    • By safarmuk 7th Jun 17, 3:22 PM
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    • 7th Jun 17, 3:22 PM
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    • 7th Jun 17, 3:22 PM
    It will need to be Ł166.66 for a 40% reduction to bring it down to Ł100!
    Have they actually left in the clause that says you should provide a 40% reduction offer? They missed a trick there ... maybe they are saving that for the next revision ...
    Last edited by safarmuk; 07-06-2017 at 3:25 PM.
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 7th Jun 17, 3:42 PM
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    • 7th Jun 17, 3:42 PM
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    • 7th Jun 17, 3:42 PM
    Try this link and check it yourself

    https://www.docdroid.net/Q4Cx2Jr/code-of-practice-v6.pdf.html
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 7th Jun 17, 5:16 PM
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    • #7
    • 7th Jun 17, 5:16 PM
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    • 7th Jun 17, 5:16 PM
    Originally posted by IamEmanresu
    Nothing will change, they have left too many doors open for their
    members to wriggle out of.

    Regardless, the IPC/IAS is still a sham and a kangaroo court

    Once a sham always a sham

    The "I" in IPC still means that it's all Incestuous ... not Independent
    Last edited by beamerguy; 07-06-2017 at 5:20 PM.
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 8th Jun 17, 11:05 AM
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    • #8
    • 8th Jun 17, 11:05 AM
    • #8
    • 8th Jun 17, 11:05 AM
    The prankster makes a comment

    New IPC code of practice weakens data protection levels

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/new-ipc-code-of-practice-weakens-data.html

    One must ask ..... what part does Simon Renshaw-Smith play
    in this new charade considering that Excel/VCS appeals to the IAS
    only result in NO
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    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 8th Jun 17, 1:18 PM
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    Before issuing court proceedings on any unpaid parking charge which is over 12 months old, the operator must first perform a suitable check of the defendant’s last known address.


    So that means you've got an additional set-aside or expenses point when the send stuff to an old address? Or does it just encourage them to issue proceedings at 51 weeks?

    • hoohoo
    • By hoohoo 8th Jun 17, 2:53 PM
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    The prankster makes a comment

    New IPC code of practice weakens data protection levels

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/new-ipc-code-of-practice-weakens-data.html

    One must ask ..... what part does Simon Renshaw-Smith play
    in this new charade considering that Excel/VCS appeals to the IAS
    only result in NO
    Originally posted by beamerguy
    SRS is on the rule-making committee...

    Will Hurley
    John Davies
    Andrew Fitton
    Ashley Bijster
    James de Savary
    Simon Renshaw Smith
    Dyl Kurpil
    Gareth Brierley
    Fiona Macey
    Kevin McManus
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    • safarmuk
    • By safarmuk 8th Jun 17, 4:56 PM
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    Wow, so the rules appear to be made up by people that own the PPCs and the people that own the Solicitors that do the litigation for the PPCs ...
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 8th Jun 17, 5:02 PM
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    So that means you've got an additional set-aside or expenses point when the send stuff to an old address? Or does it just encourage them to issue proceedings at 51 weeks?

    Originally posted by Herzlos
    The point is that the quoted clause has been removed. The previous code may have been an incentive to file at 51 weeks; now IPC members don't even have to check at all, regardless of how old the PCN is.
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 8th Jun 17, 5:20 PM
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    Wow, so the rules appear to be made up by people that own the PPCs and the people that own the Solicitors that do the litigation for the PPCs ...
    Originally posted by safarmuk
    Will Hurley The IPC
    John Davies Gladstones Solicitors
    Andrew Fitton ParkShield
    Ashley Bijster Imperial Civil Enforcement Solutions
    James de Savary Napier Parking
    Simon Renshaw Smith VCS and Excel
    Dyl Kurpil District Enforcement
    Gareth Brierley Debt Recovery Plus
    Fiona Macey University of York
    Kevin McManus (aka 'bouncy Kev') AS Parking

    There you go - what a fine upstanding group.
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 8th Jun 17, 6:29 PM
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    Will Hurley The IPC
    John Davies Gladstones Solicitors
    Andrew Fitton ParkShield
    Ashley Bijster Imperial Civil Enforcement Solutions
    James de Savary Napier Parking
    Simon Renshaw Smith VCS and Excel
    Dyl Kurpil District Enforcement
    Gareth Brierley Debt Recovery Plus
    Fiona Macey University of York
    Kevin McManus (aka 'bouncy Kev') AS Parking

    There you go - what a fine upstanding group.
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    The UK financial terrorists

    Let us hope that whichever government is elected, there is
    a cull on these scammers

    Very surprised not to see Marcus Jones (MP) in the list ???
    Last edited by beamerguy; 08-06-2017 at 6:57 PM.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 9th Jun 17, 6:55 PM
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    Will Hurley The IPC
    John Davies Gladstones Solicitors
    Andrew Fitton ParkShield
    Ashley Bijster Imperial Civil Enforcement Solutions
    James de Savary Napier Parking
    Simon Renshaw Smith VCS and Excel
    Dyl Kurpil District Enforcement
    Gareth Brierley Debt Recovery Plus
    Fiona Macey University of York
    Kevin McManus (aka 'bouncy Kev') AS Parking

    There you go - what a fine upstanding group.
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    Woah, what a line-up.

    Dyl Kurpil is used to certain bottom-feeding *levels of Society* from his previous job.
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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 9th Jun 17, 6:59 PM
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    I wonder after PP showing it "Before issuing court proceedings on any unpaid parking charge which is over 12 months old, the operator must first perform a suitable check of the defendant’s last known address." people will make formal complaints to the IPC and use that statement (breaking ATA code of practice) in cases of set asides
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 17th Jun 17, 7:51 AM
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    UPDATE:

    Seems the version that was published earlier was a draft and a new version (v6.1) has been uploaded. Changes are as before with the exception that this

    It is suggested the maximum parking charge should be: Ł100. Where there is a prospect of additional charges, reference should be made to this where appropriate on the signage and/or other documentation


    has now been expanded to read

    Parking charges must not exceed Ł100 unless agreed in advance with the IPC. Where there is a prospect of additional charges, reference should be made to this where appropriate on the signage and/or other documentation.

    Where a Parking Charge becomes overdue a reasonable sum may be added. This sum must not exceed Ł60 (inclusive of VAT where applicable) unless Court Proceedings have been initiated.

    Before issuing court proceedings on any unpaid parking charge which is over 12 months old, the operator must first perform a suitable check of the defendant’s last known address.


    See page 33 on the new version here http://docdro.id/5Gga0PD
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    • MothballsWallet
    • By MothballsWallet 17th Jun 17, 8:18 AM
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    It will need to be Ł166.66 for a 40% reduction to bring it down to Ł100!

    Why not, eh? After all, it's now only a 'suggested' figure. Who'll be first to break rank? A big one, or a small-fry to test the water. No doubt a meeting at High Leigh Park Golf Club is imminent!
    Originally posted by Umkomaas
    Nah, I'd say they'll meet at a house of ill repute - that way they can meet with Tories to get more special treatment in Acts of Parliament
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    • hoohoo
    • By hoohoo 17th Jun 17, 8:20 AM
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    It appears they are having trouble on their site.

    https://theipc.info/accredited-operator-scheme

    The CoP link doesn't work for me.
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    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 17th Jun 17, 8:32 AM
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    "Where there is a prospect of additional charges......."

    Yep that line sums this whole scam industry up in one!
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