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    • D1.f
    • By D1.f 18th May 17, 6:03 PM
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    Ali Express etc and Xaiomi Advice please
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    • 18th May 17, 6:03 PM
    Ali Express etc and Xaiomi Advice please 18th May 17 at 6:03 PM
    Puddled now after 2 days of research and one false start!!
    Any advice on what to buy and who from please?
    Want a Xaiomi Redmi 4 or 4x, global version, sealed box, pre-installed Google Play, pink or gold.
    Thanks
    Di
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    • dj1471
    • By dj1471 18th May 17, 9:06 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:06 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:06 PM
    Personally I wouldn't buy high value items from AliExpress - even if you have a warranty using it is likely to be difficult and expensive. Likewise if you receive a faulty or damaged item you have no consumer rights which you can actually exercise, you'd likely need to pay the cost of returning it.

    In general it's the same as eBay - choose a seller that has lots of good feedback and has shipped a lot of orders.

    Don't forget to factor import duty, VAT and handling fees into the cost.
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 18th May 17, 9:58 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:58 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:58 PM
    the difference with AliExpress over ebay is that the vendor doesn't receive funds (which are held by AE) until such time you get the goods and confirm they are acceptable, not damaged, DOA, etc. If they are you let AE know and if you read how it works, then you can be refunded (direct from AE) and often get to keep the faulty goods as well as the vendor doesn't always want them back...
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    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 18th May 17, 10:49 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 10:49 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 10:49 PM
    The issue is often not receiving the goods its x weeks or months down the line when the device fails and you effectively have no warranty.

    How many sellers just close down and startup again?

    Or you have to send it back to Chiina tracked which costs???
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    Due to me being a tight git.
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 18th May 17, 11:03 PM
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    • #5
    • 18th May 17, 11:03 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 11:03 PM
    Puddled now after 2 days of research and one false start!!
    Any advice on what to buy and who from please?
    Want a Xaiomi Redmi 4 or 4x, global version, sealed box, pre-installed Google Play, pink or gold.
    Thanks
    Di
    Originally posted by D1.f
    You dont ask for much do you.

    Not many places you can buy 1 from.

    Why that particular phone ?

    I also wouldnt buy high value items from a site like Ali Express, not that I dont trust them, its the whole warranty issue, makes it easier if you buy using a credit card.

    Ali Express are the official store for Xiaomi phones.
    Last edited by DCFC79; 18-05-2017 at 11:13 PM.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • D1.f
    • By D1.f 18th May 17, 11:25 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 11:25 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 11:25 PM
    Don't ask you don't get .

    Thanks for replies. Hit lucky and found the phone on ebay and Shipped from Dublin - accepting PayPal.

    Chose the phone from reviews and spec (and blinginess) - based on having champagne taste and a brown ale budget plus liking for shiny things ........ Gambling on tech is the nearest i get to living dangerously. =D

    Thanks again and fingers crossed x x
    Last edited by D1.f; 18-05-2017 at 11:28 PM.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 21st Jun 17, 1:33 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 1:33 PM
    Originally posted by qudwnsdlekd
    I smell a whiff of luncheon meat.
    Diary of a madman
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    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 21st Jun 17, 1:39 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 1:39 PM
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    • 21st Jun 17, 1:39 PM
    I smell a whiff of luncheon meat.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    So do I, so I've reported it.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 21st Jun 17, 2:44 PM
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    I just clicked the button.
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    • D1.f
    • By D1.f 21st Jun 17, 3:19 PM
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    Hi everyone
    Just wanted to reassure you all it wasn't spam!!

    I just thought it would be good manners to give you some feedback as I had taken advice here and not ordered from China.

    I'm a 50 something year old talking therapist and my only contact with spam was school dinners 1000 years ago.

    Thought also it may help another Mum who's disposable income goes on her son's top of the range tech whilst she's been "embarrassing" him for the last five years with her 'fail phone'.

    This site has saved me literally thousands so just wanting to say thank you x
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 21st Jun 17, 3:28 PM
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    Hi everyone
    Just wanted to reassure you all it wasn't spam!!

    I just thought it would be good manners to give you some feedback as I had taken advice here and not ordered from China.

    I'm a 50 something year old talking therapist and my only contact with spam was school dinners 1000 years ago.

    Thought also it may help another Mum who's disposable income goes on her son's top of the range tech whilst she's been "embarrassing" him for the last five years with her 'fail phone'.

    This site has saved me literally thousands so just wanting to say thank you x
    Originally posted by D1.f
    The spam wasn't directed at you, it was at the (now deleted) post by [random username] quoted in DoaM's post above
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    • sillygoose
    • By sillygoose 22nd Jun 17, 8:26 AM
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    Missed this when posted but would agree strongly with dj1471's comment.

    I buy a lot of stuff through Aliexpress, often several items a week. I have had problems but I have never lost a dispute and not got my money back when needed.

    I did once buy a Xiaomi MI3 from a high feedback seller, it arrived quickly fully boxed and checked out as original (there are a lot of fake Xiaomi out there)

    But it had a fault in that the soft keys didn't illuminate making it near impossible to use. Once proved to the seller by uploading them a video of it a refund was offered fine.

    Here is the problem, you HAVE to send it back tracked to be safe and the cheapest I could find was ipost for about £32 (on a £115 purchase).

    As soon as the tracking showed 'delivered' Aliexpress refunded. But of course you don't get return postage back. The Chinese state massively subsidise shipping out of China but your stuck with our rates to get it back.

    So no, no more high value purchases for me. On most low value items Aliexpress will rule on your side of with a full refund with no need to return the item as long as you upload decent evidence.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 22nd Jun 17, 9:14 AM
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    Maybe one day China will decide reputation DOES matter
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    look out your window and see the pigs fly.

    trouble is a lot of services within china are run by the corrupt Chinese state government
    Shipping
    Mail
    Media
    Internet Service
    All state run

    the worse is Internet service Chinanet.
    This is the main source of worldwide spam which services like spamcop no longer pass spam reports onto chinanet as they are ignored.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 22nd Jun 17, 12:31 PM
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    What a joke this thread is. I've bought hundreds of items from China, including two mobile phones. You take a chance. Both phones are still working fine. The one time I had a high value item go tits up, I put a chargeback in, they didn't dispute it. I kept the faulty goods and got my money back.

    If you like Xiaomi, go ahead and buy one. They're cracking little devices and my gf will tell you that as she owns a Redmi 2.
    • GunJack
    • By GunJack 22nd Jun 17, 3:11 PM
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    I think the Government should apply a simple £1 tax on every item from China, there is a lot of tax fraud where items are declared under value, this would regain lost revenue.
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    Get real, that £1 would turn into more like £7-8 with the RM "handling charge" to collect it on top....

    I buy all my vaping kit direct from China (where 99.99% of all vape kit is manufactured) - you take the trade-off of cost v customer service and understand that before you buy...having said that, some of the bigger companies are much better at it these days.

    If buying from anywhere abroad, it's a pain if you have to return stuff.
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