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    • MSE Ben
    • By MSE Ben 18th May 17, 5:07 PM
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    MSE News: Tories promise energy price cap and 'fair markets for consumers'
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    • 18th May 17, 5:07 PM
    MSE News: Tories promise energy price cap and 'fair markets for consumers' 18th May 17 at 5:07 PM
    The Conservative Party is the latest party to launch its Election manifesto follwing Labour and the Liberal Democrats earlier this week...
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    'Tories promise energy price cap and 'fair markets for consumers' as parties unveil manifestos'

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    • JohnRo
    • By JohnRo 18th May 17, 5:35 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 5:35 PM
    Should this not be in the Energy forum?
    'We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.' ― Albert Einstein
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    • IAmWales
    • By IAmWales 18th May 17, 6:13 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 6:13 PM
    No mention that this is a rehash of an old Labour policy?

    Or that they've gone back on their 2015 promise not to raise income tax?

    Or the u turn on their commitment to a cap on care fees?
    Last edited by IAmWales; 18-05-2017 at 6:16 PM.
    • MABLE
    • By MABLE 19th May 17, 7:22 PM
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    • 19th May 17, 7:22 PM
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    • 19th May 17, 7:22 PM
    I think Mrs May needs to clarify how the Winter fuel allowance will be allocated before we go to vote on 8 June. If she does not then there is a good chance she will not get the majority she was hoping for.
    • Mupette
    • By Mupette 19th May 17, 9:31 PM
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    • 19th May 17, 9:31 PM
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    • 19th May 17, 9:31 PM
    Just remember, whoever you choose to vote for, they have all back peddled on promises of if you vote for me i will do this .....

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    • phillw
    • By phillw 21st May 17, 10:37 AM
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    • 21st May 17, 10:37 AM
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    I think Mrs May needs to clarify how the Winter fuel allowance will be allocated before we go to vote on 8 June. If she does not then there is a good chance she will not get the majority she was hoping for.
    Originally posted by MABLE
    On the Andrew Marr show they said that only those who need it will get it. They also said that pension poverty was down from 40% in the 1960's to 14% today. I would expect the starting point for their working group to decide where to cut the benefit, would start around the pension poverty line. After so many PIP decisions have been overturned on appeal, I don't hold much hope for the UK government to make a robust decision on who actually needs it.

    All poverty calculations are relative and as the other conservative policies and brexit could slow our economy even further, it will pull even more people out of "poverty" and allow their fuel payments to be stopped even if they have less money in real terms. I believe the government will want that kind of security, so that they aren't forced to pay fuel payments if they can't afford to. Don't forget you also need to factor in the cost of evaluating whether people are entitled to it. Which with the way these things seem to work, will be more than they save by not paying it out. They probably hope that people will be too old to figure out how to claim for it online.

    Unfortunately they don't put the real implications of your vote on the side of a red bus. They reserve that for the undeliverable seduction.
    Last edited by phillw; 21-05-2017 at 10:46 AM.
    • Consumerist
    • By Consumerist 21st May 17, 11:46 PM
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    • 21st May 17, 11:46 PM
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    • 21st May 17, 11:46 PM
    Make Winter Fuel Payments subject to means-testing - currently most pensioners receive one-off payments of between £100 and £300 triggered when the temperature falls below certain levels.
    Isn't that the Cold Weather Payment?

    Winter Fuel Payments to a family are dependent on age.
    Last edited by Consumerist; 21-05-2017 at 11:50 PM.
    Warning: In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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