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    • maidei
    • By maidei 18th May 17, 12:35 AM
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    Renting impossible HELP!!
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    • 18th May 17, 12:35 AM
    Renting impossible HELP!! 18th May 17 at 12:35 AM
    hi

    We have been trying to rent a property in a city in midlands and it is proving rather difficult to find any accommodation. the properties go very quick. HOW ELSE CAN SOMEONE GET A RENTAL PROPERTY. I HAVE BEEN ON EVERY ONLINE PLACE TO SEARCH EVERY SINGLE DAY. STILL NOTHING. PICTURES THAT ARE DISPLAYED ARE USUALLY OLD (WHICH MAKES THE PROPERTY LOOK LOVELY) AND YET IN CURRENT DAY THE PROPERTY CONDITION IS NOT AS ADVERTISED.
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 18th May 17, 6:31 AM
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    It sounds to me as if you have expectations higher than your ability to pay. Much of the Midlands is reasonably priced, relative to other parts of the UK, although demand there has improved recently, with an effect on prices.

    However, let's focus on you, rather than vague problems with the entire Midlands rental market; in what area(s) are you looking, what sort of place do you need, how much can you pay per month, what sort of money can you offer up-front, what's your credit score, what are your references like and have you any pets?

    Those will do for a start, because along with whether you are employed or not, they are the sort of questions which any rental agency or landlord will be asking.

    P.S. No need to shout in here. None of us is deaf on the internet.
    Last edited by Davesnave; 18-05-2017 at 6:34 AM.
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    • gycraig
    • By gycraig 18th May 17, 8:21 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 8:21 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 8:21 AM
    Being brutally honest it sounds like you are wanting a top house for a low price. When these do pop up they tend to go quickly
    • WibblyGirly
    • By WibblyGirly 18th May 17, 9:29 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:29 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 9:29 AM
    I live in a city where houses go quickly. I made appointments to view 3 on one day. After seeing the second one and knowing it was nice and right for us we straight away went into the letting agents and put our deposit down.
    Maybe you need to try do a few in one day? and be prepared to only view it once and put the money down asap.
    Also perhaps lower your expectations? Our house has mould when we viewed it and its a terrace with no parking but the cost and location out-weigh its bad points.
    • Conrad
    • By Conrad 18th May 17, 11:59 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 11:59 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 11:59 AM
    maedei, just as you like a quiet life, its vital you recognise that Letting Agents and Landlords also want a quiet life, after all we have enough stress without adding to it.


    Why am I mentioning this?


    Because a prospective tenant gives off a vibe. Some instantly scream 'agro / stress'. If I meet / get a call from such a prospect I run a mile - I have my own stresses in life, I don't want the additional stress of a needy / awkward / less than capable tenant who will cause me hassle down the line


    In summary you need to look and sound like the perfect tenant.


    TIP - nothing puts me off more than someone that mumbles down the phone and has an air of entitlement - they give you little detail and don't speak in a cogent lucid manner. This type of personality is likely to give hassle as their whole lax attitude will feed into their actions as a tenant - for example cannot be bothered to open windows to avoid condensation - they expect the world to do everything for them. This personality type may well form relationships with those of a similar transient, careless attitude and thus their lived experience could be one of chaos and complexity.
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 18th May 17, 12:28 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 12:28 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 12:28 PM
    hi

    We have been trying to rent a property in a city in midlands and it is proving rather difficult to find any accommodation. the properties go very quick. HOW ELSE CAN SOMEONE GET A RENTAL PROPERTY. I HAVE BEEN ON EVERY ONLINE PLACE TO SEARCH EVERY SINGLE DAY. STILL NOTHING. PICTURES THAT ARE DISPLAYED ARE USUALLY OLD (WHICH MAKES THE PROPERTY LOOK LOVELY) AND YET IN CURRENT DAY THE PROPERTY CONDITION IS NOT AS ADVERTISED.
    Originally posted by maidei
    I am not quite sure what you mean by the pictures are old and the property looks different when you see it? You have to remember that a landlord does not want to have vacant properties and also that current tenants do not like having their belonging photographed and put onto websites to advertise a property to let so of course the photos will not be of taken while the current tenant is living there. This is why you have to view the property.

    If you are saying that when you view a property you don't like the accommodation on offer or the decoration then you are probably looking in the wrong price bracket? Don't forget you can always ask your landlord if they will allow you to decorate the house.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 18th May 17, 1:01 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 1:01 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 1:01 PM
    You're looking online, but are you only being reactive? Or are you being proactive, talking to lettings agents, and generally making YOU the person they call first when something new comes on?
    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 18th May 17, 1:32 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 1:32 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 1:32 PM
    OP can we have less of the capitals.
    Can people stop loaning money/being a guarator to family/friends, it rarely ends well and you lose out as your money is gone or you get shafted with being a guarantor.
    • maidei
    • By maidei 18th May 17, 11:02 PM
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    • 18th May 17, 11:02 PM
    ,..
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    • 18th May 17, 11:02 PM
    i dont understand what you mean by your comment, you sound like we've met before? what makes you think im what you are describing?
    • maidei
    • By maidei 18th May 17, 11:08 PM
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    ,,
    the amount of viewings for one property by various people, the landlord looks at say 8 applicants and chooses one. or in other scenario the letting agents tell you they can not get hold of the LL to make a decision then they go quiet after the house is taken by someone else. I'm thinking putting my concern here was not a good idea? (not to you directly) but from some of the comments here
    • maidei
    • By maidei 18th May 17, 11:14 PM
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    ,,
    as you can imagine, I cant disclose all the personal details you are asking (maybe its a question that does not require an answer. I work a FT job with good pay so I know i can get good ref check.
    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 18th May 17, 11:30 PM
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    I'm thinking putting my concern here was not a good idea? (not to you directly) but from some of the comments here
    Originally posted by maidei
    you made a general comment along the lines that you are not being successful when applying for a property

    if you cannot accept that there will be a wide range of answers to your comment perhaps that in itself is indicative of the explanation you say you cannot understand (or don't like?). Landlords form impressions, just the same as you have formed an impression about the replies you received here. Impressions may be wrong, but they are often what drives a decision....

    As it is in the direct financial interest of a letting agent to place a tenant as that way they get to charge fees. Therefore why are the agents you deal with not placing you or inundating you with potential places to look at ?

    successfully signing a place to rent is not impossible otherwise there would be no one renting. Yes you are feeling frustrated, yes there may be a reason you have yet to identify (accept?) why you are not winning, but win in the end you will.
    Last edited by 00ec25; 18-05-2017 at 11:33 PM.
    • buglawton
    • By buglawton 18th May 17, 11:33 PM
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    i dont understand what you mean by your comment, you sound like we've met before? what makes you think im what you are describing?
    Originally posted by maidei
    When you post a comment like this you should tap the Quote button so we know who's post you are replying to.

    In any case you've made an odd reply in itself.
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 18th May 17, 11:53 PM
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    as you can imagine, I cant disclose all the personal details you are asking (maybe its a question that does not require an answer. I work a FT job with good pay so I know i can get good ref check.
    Originally posted by maidei
    I think you are having trouble communicating with letting agents, just as you are here.

    You say you can't provide the personal details asked for (probably by me) but you missed the point; they aren't personal, because no one knows who you are here. You are anonymous.

    With a letting agent, If you don't give them the information they require, then they'll simply choose someone easier to deal with.

    By references, I meant the report(s)on you by a previous landlord(s). These are important, because if you've been a good tenant in the past, it's likely you'll be the same in the future.
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    • kerri gt
    • By kerri gt 19th May 17, 12:08 AM
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    Don't just look online, build a relationship with the lettings agents - go into branches, discuss what you're looking for and budget (and determine if this really is realistic), the time frame you're looking to move in and discuss what they currently have on their books and anything they know of that might be coming up.

    Keep in contact after that - phone regularly to see if anything new has come onto their books (after all, they want to get properties let asap for their customer - ie the LL) but do remember to be polite and courteous as the relationship you have with the agent could well be the difference between you getting into a property vs someone else who has exactly the same credentials on paper.

    Being proactive is a big part of getting to the top of the queue - but being polite and courteous is another big part too.

    Yes, some properties might have older photos - i.e those taken the last time it was vacant, but also remember that properties when vacated for lets generally have some kind of cleaning clause in the check out for the outgoing tenant where their either have to clean it to a professional / satisfactory std or have a company do so.

    If a property is particularly bad you could enquire as to whether the LL is going to redecorate (within reason) once the tenant moves out or make some agreement to do it yourself (we were going to do this in one house a number of years ago, the LL was living there but moving out, didn't have time to redecorate but agreed it needed to be done so agreed we could paint it as we wished colour-wise if we put in the work and he paid the materials)
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    • maidei
    • By maidei 19th May 17, 12:52 AM
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    Sound advice thank you.

    Don't just look online, build a relationship with the lettings agents - go into branches, discuss what you're looking for and budget (and determine if this really is realistic), the time frame you're looking to move in and discuss what they currently have on their books and anything they know of that might be coming up.

    Keep in contact after that - phone regularly to see if anything new has come onto their books (after all, they want to get properties let asap for their customer - ie the LL) but do remember to be polite and courteous as the relationship you have with the agent could well be the difference between you getting into a property vs someone else who has exactly the same credentials on paper.

    Being proactive is a big part of getting to the top of the queue - but being polite and courteous is another big part too.

    Yes, some properties might have older photos - i.e those taken the last time it was vacant, but also remember that properties when vacated for lets generally have some kind of cleaning clause in the check out for the outgoing tenant where their either have to clean it to a professional / satisfactory std or have a company do so.

    If a property is particularly bad you could enquire as to whether the LL is going to redecorate (within reason) once the tenant moves out or make some agreement to do it yourself (we were going to do this in one house a number of years ago, the LL was living there but moving out, didn't have time to redecorate but agreed it needed to be done so agreed we could paint it as we wished colour-wise if we put in the work and he paid the materials)
    Originally posted by kerri gt
    • maidei
    • By maidei 19th May 17, 12:54 AM
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    typing is not my strong point
    thanks for your advice

    I think you are having trouble communicating with letting agents, just as you are here.

    You say you can't provide the personal details asked for (probably by me) but you missed the point; they aren't personal, because no one knows who you are here. You are anonymous.

    With a letting agent, If you don't give them the information they require, then they'll simply choose someone easier to deal with.

    By references, I meant the report(s)on you by a previous landlord(s). These are important, because if you've been a good tenant in the past, it's likely you'll be the same in the future.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    • maidei
    • By maidei 19th May 17, 12:55 AM
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    ok thanks im new to this

    When you post a comment like this you should tap the Quote button so we know who's post you are replying to.

    In any case you've made an odd reply in itself.
    Originally posted by buglawton
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 19th May 17, 12:25 PM
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    What you need to remember is that it isn't the letting agents who decide who gets a property it is the landlord. The letting agents contact the landlord and discuss the applicants with them so that the landlord can decide who to let the property to.

    I am a landlord who lets property through an agent. The kind of situation where we would decide not to let to someone includes a family of 7 (parents and 5 children and small modern 3 bed) wanting to rent a small 3 bed house, someone who has to give notice on their present property when there is someone else who can move in straight away, someone who only just earns enough. Every landlord wants a tenant who is likely to be the least amount of hassle and who will look after the property. Some tenants apply for properties that are completely unsuitable for them. A landlord is not going to wait for someone to see out their notice on a present rental if there is someone who can move in straight away.
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