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    • Enterprise 1701C
    • By Enterprise 1701C 17th May 17, 9:39 AM
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    Personal Cloud
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    • 17th May 17, 9:39 AM
    Personal Cloud 17th May 17 at 9:39 AM
    I am looking at buying a personal cloud. Main purpose is for accessing files and pictures outside of home, using either Ethernet or wifi in other locations.

    Currently looking at a WD 3TB My Cloud Personal Network Attached Storage - NAS - WDBCTL0030HWT-EESN.

    Has anyone had any experience of this or would they recommend a different one. I KNOW there are better ones that are way more expensive, but I just want a cheapish NAS unit.

    Thank you.
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    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 18th May 17, 8:54 PM
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    Sad old git adding his worthless 2d worth
    So as I understand
    What I am after is a backup and storage for photos and home videos, and this needs to be accessible from outside the house too, especially some files that are actually for our business. It will be used to backup computers when they are shut down, so may well be woken up only two or three times a day on average.
    For business use, NO NO definitely NO, do not expose your files to the Internet, for backup use, do NOT expose them on the Internet , are you following the CAPITAL letters thus far If you want to access the cat/grandkids/unmentionable pics use dropbox/google drive/iCloud or similar. If you really want to expose other files out there encrypt then first and then access them with your own private key...easy with the same platform , not so with most portable platforms.
    If you want a backup solution don't leave it on your home systems permanently, and certainly don't leave them on the WWW unless encrypted.
    • were
    • By were 18th May 17, 9:37 PM
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    were
    I would consider 4 me http://www.freenas.org/for-home/ would be the way to go using software raid and zfs. There is also nas4free too, which may also do the job. One of these on an a HP cube type server with an atom cpu -cheap to power. Search his forum for zfs

    or buy a dedicate system like synology

    That cloud company goes broke, or you forget to pay, that data may vanish for even. On the other hand if your house gets burgled, bombed or burnt, data stored externally is great too. Use both ways
    Last edited by were; 19-05-2017 at 6:38 AM. Reason: loads of typos and hp cube
    • Enterprise 1701C
    • By Enterprise 1701C 19th May 17, 9:04 AM
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    Sad old git adding his worthless 2d worth
    So as I understand For business use, NO NO definitely NO, do not expose your files to the Internet, for backup use, do NOT expose them on the Internet , are you following the CAPITAL letters thus far If you want to access the cat/grandkids/unmentionable pics use dropbox/google drive/iCloud or similar. If you really want to expose other files out there encrypt then first and then access them with your own private key...easy with the same platform , not so with most portable platforms.
    If you want a backup solution don't leave it on your home systems permanently, and certainly don't leave them on the WWW unless encrypted.
    Originally posted by debitcardmayhem
    Thank you, the photos etc will be accessible by family but the business files will be encrypted and passworded.

    I have run out of space on the free platforms.

    It will be off overnight and any other time when we do not need to access it from outside the home. Might even use one of those on/off switches accessible over the internet.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
    • zagubov
    • By zagubov 19th May 17, 10:50 PM
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    Thank you, the photos etc will be accessible by family but the business files will be encrypted and passworded.

    I have run out of space on the free platforms.

    It will be off overnight and any other time when we do not need to access it from outside the home. Might even use one of those on/off switches accessible over the internet.
    Originally posted by Enterprise 1701C
    Is that including the 100gb free service on the other cloud thread here?
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=72575932#post72575932

    I've signed up for the free version but I am aware of some security issues.
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    • buglawton
    • By buglawton 19th May 17, 11:19 PM
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    I use Dropbox but don't feel happy to use it for any sensitive/financial docs because it's stored unencrypted within Dropbox's network.

    So been looking at Boxcryptor and similar, which should give seamless access from mobile and PC devices but Dropbox (and the hackers that target Dropbox) will never have the decryption key.

    Any thoughts? Could be an alternative to a personal Cloud? Don't want to hijack this thread so may open my own.
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    • emptybox
    • By emptybox 20th May 17, 1:47 AM
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    I back up some business files in Dropbox, but I put them in an encrypted volume with Veracrypt before I upload them.

    I'm hoping that makes them relatively safe, but I'm still unsure if it's a good idea?
    But it seems to me it's the most convenient way to keep an off-site backup that can be updated every day.
    • buglawton
    • By buglawton 20th May 17, 7:11 AM
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    Veracrypt can work with Dropbox between PCs I've experimented with it too.
    But being able to deal with your data with phones & tablets too would be a boon.

    I see you've got an appropriate username!
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    • emptybox
    • By emptybox 22nd May 17, 2:29 AM
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    Veracrypt can work with Dropbox between PCs I've experimented with it too.
    But being able to deal with your data with phones & tablets too would be a boon.

    I see you've got an appropriate username!
    Originally posted by buglawton
    Veracrypt doesn't have a mobile app, but there are third party apps that support Veracrypt volumes in Android and iOS.
    https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=android%20%26%20ios%20support
    Think they have their limitations though? Never tried them myself.

    Haven't tried Boxcryptor, but sounds like it might meet your needs better.
    Sounds like the free version only supports two devices though, so you might need to pay?
    https://www.boxcryptor.com/en/

    Username just a coincidence. I don't need to encrypt my box as it's got nothing in it.
  • jamesd
    This describes the software that can be used to set up a cloud easily with Windows: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/software/build-your-own-personal-cloud-server-3378792/ . Can use a built in drive or external drive and if you like you can add a cheap small Windows PC that doesn't use much power to keep it available when your main one isn't on.

    Since it's all just normal Windows you're not stuck if a proprietary cloud server box fails, you can just move the drive to another PC and carry on as before.
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