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    • CLT1987
    • By CLT1987 15th May 17, 9:58 PM
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    Untaxed cars
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    • 15th May 17, 9:58 PM
    Untaxed cars 15th May 17 at 9:58 PM
    My neighbour has been keeping untaxed cars on his drive. New cars keep appearing pretty much every day which I thought was suspicious so I have been checking the tax status of each new one that appears with the DVLA (as I know this particular neighbour has been partial to a bit of vehicle tax avoidance himself in the past). Low and behold each new car that appears, which is pretty much one every day, does not have vehicle tax and/or MOT. I have reported each car that I have seen with no tax to the DVLA but nothing has happened. Any advice??? Because as far as I'm aware they must have a SORN even if they are kept off the road, plus they are obviously being driven to and from the property untaxed. Very strange and suspicious!!
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    • Roland Sausage
    • By Roland Sausage 15th May 17, 10:15 PM
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    • 15th May 17, 10:15 PM
    Any advice???
    Originally posted by CLT1987
    Yes. Mind your own business.
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 15th May 17, 10:23 PM
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    • 15th May 17, 10:23 PM
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    • 15th May 17, 10:23 PM
    When they're causing an obstruction in the road, then start complaining.

    What someone does on their own driveway, their own property, has nothing to do with you, unless they're causing a genuine nuisance.
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    • Shaka_Zulu
    • By Shaka_Zulu 15th May 17, 10:25 PM
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    • 15th May 17, 10:25 PM
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    • 15th May 17, 10:25 PM
    My neighbour has been keeping untaxed cars on his drive.
    Originally posted by CLT1987
    Not on the road then. As has been said mind your own business.
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    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 15th May 17, 10:28 PM
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    • 15th May 17, 10:28 PM
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    • 15th May 17, 10:28 PM
    My neighbour has been keeping untaxed cars on his drive. New cars keep appearing pretty much every day which I thought was suspicious so I have been checking the tax status of each new one that appears with the DVLA (as I know this particular neighbour has been partial to a bit of vehicle tax avoidance himself in the past). Low and behold each new car that appears, which is pretty much one every day, does not have vehicle tax and/or MOT. I have reported each car that I have seen with no tax to the DVLA but nothing has happened. Any advice??? Because as far as I'm aware they must have a SORN even if they are kept off the road, plus they are obviously being driven to and from the property untaxed. Very strange and suspicious!!
    Originally posted by CLT1987
    Join a random forum and start a thread about it.
    • CLT1987
    • By CLT1987 16th May 17, 6:54 AM
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    • 16th May 17, 6:54 AM
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    • 16th May 17, 6:54 AM
    Fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and mine is that nobody is above the law. I struggle to make ends meet and provide for myself and my family but I still manage to abide by the law and pay my road tax. But as I said everyone is entitled to their own opinion so there you go!
    • angrycrow
    • By angrycrow 16th May 17, 7:22 AM
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    • 16th May 17, 7:22 AM
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    • 16th May 17, 7:22 AM
    Most likely explanation is he is a motor trader who has had to temporarily move his stock from his normal pitch or he has a friend who is a trader and he is storing the stock for them.

    If the cars are registered as "in trade" with dvla which you have no way of confirming they do not require tax or sorn but must be kept off the public road. They can legally be driven on trade plates for movement of stock,test drives or to take them for repairs.

    Likely to be perfectly legal.
    • arcon5
    • By arcon5 16th May 17, 7:50 AM
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    • 16th May 17, 7:50 AM
    How do you know he's acting illegally?
    Might have trade plates for starters
    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 16th May 17, 8:11 AM
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    • 16th May 17, 8:11 AM
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    • 16th May 17, 8:11 AM
    Try rummaging through his bins, you might find some useful information.
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    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 16th May 17, 9:37 AM
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    Yes. Mind your own business.
    Originally posted by Roland Sausage
    Join a random forum and start a thread about it.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Did you all miss the bit that said "Newbie Alert" please give a little leeway and be especially nice??
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 16th May 17, 10:41 AM
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    Trade plates, returned home from the MOT station so the tax and MOT have not shown up yet.

    Is it you taking pictures of my cars and writing in your little red notebook?
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    • CLT1987
    • By CLT1987 16th May 17, 3:59 PM
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    Thank you for the only reply with a genuinely helpful answer!
    • CLT1987
    • By CLT1987 16th May 17, 4:20 PM
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    Try rummaging through his bins, you might find some useful information.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    Great idea, I'll get my marigolds on now!
    • CLT1987
    • By CLT1987 16th May 17, 4:22 PM
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    Join a random forum and start a thread about it.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Already done that! Anything else Mr Mc?
    • moneysaver
    • By moneysaver 16th May 17, 5:30 PM
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    If he is dodging tax, insurance or mot he should be reported. You are quite right to do so. Cannot stand fly people who do this. I pay all my stuff due on my car & it is not cheap.

    There is also a chance they have no Insurance. Would any of the previous posters like to be hit by an unisured driver?

    I don't care if he is a dealer as long as he is paying what is due. If he is not, report it.

    Moneysaver
    Last edited by moneysaver; 16-05-2017 at 5:35 PM.
    • CLT1987
    • By CLT1987 16th May 17, 6:44 PM
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    If he is dodging tax, insurance or mot he should be reported. You are quite right to do so. Cannot stand fly people who do this. I pay all my stuff due on my car & it is not cheap.

    There is also a chance they have no Insurance. Would any of the previous posters like to be hit by an unisured driver?

    I don't care if he is a dealer as long as he is paying what is due. If he is not, report it.

    Moneysaver
    Originally posted by moneysaver
    Finally someone who thinks along the same lines as I do. He is not a trader he's a taxi driver who was driving around in a private hire vehicle without road tax on it for least 2 years until recently. The cars arrive and leave without trade plates. Fair enough though as pointed out he could be storing them for someone who is a trader. However it still isn't acceptable for some to flout the law and for those who adhere to it to be penalised.
    • Joe Horner
    • By Joe Horner 16th May 17, 7:07 PM
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    It's not necessarily that the other posters don't agree about people who ignore the rules but - like many posters before you - you've drip-fed extra information after your first post while asking for opinions based on the incomplete story. All the earlier opinions were perfectly valid with what you'd revealed at that point.

    There's also the slightly odd question of, since tax disks no longer exist, why you know that these cars are untaxed. We have several neighbours who change cars fairly regularly and, especially in summer, often have unknown cars appearing for a few days parked along the road. Not once have we felt the need, or even curiosity, to check whether any of them are taxed or not!
    • CLT1987
    • By CLT1987 16th May 17, 7:26 PM
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    I checked initially because someone from his house parked an untaxed car in front of my drive for 3 months blocking me out of my own drive and has parked other untaxed cars there for a few days after that. And I knew about the taxi because the council turned up and it was on their Twitter feed about why.
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 16th May 17, 8:22 PM
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    • mcpitman
    • By mcpitman 17th May 17, 8:34 AM
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    I checked initially because someone from his house parked an untaxed car in front of my drive for 3 months blocking me out of my own drive and has parked other untaxed cars there for a few days after that. And I knew about the taxi because the council turned up and it was on their Twitter feed about why.
    Originally posted by CLT1987
    So you are looking for revenge for someone else parking over your drive some time ago?

    If the cars are on his drive, mind your own business.

    If he blocks your drive (leaving the car on the street), report it to the relevant authorities.
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