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    • beautiful_ravens
    • By beautiful_ravens 15th May 17, 9:09 PM
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    I dont like toothpaste
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    • 15th May 17, 9:09 PM
    I dont like toothpaste 15th May 17 at 9:09 PM
    Hi
    I dont like toothpaste .. its too minty, I dont like the foam and I just dont like brushing my teeth with it.

    What could I use instead?
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    • heartbreak_star
    • By heartbreak_star 17th May 17, 10:23 AM
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    Euthymol is pretty good? Another eucalyptus one.

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    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 17th May 17, 10:41 AM
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    Euthymol has an abrasive index far above that recommended. It's good for cleaning bathroom grouting but not teeth as it will wear enamel away. It also has no fluoride.
    • beautiful_ravens
    • By beautiful_ravens 17th May 17, 9:10 PM
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    Lots of ideas to check out, many thanks.
    OH! Aloe vera toothpaste, does anyone use it?
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    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 17th May 17, 11:06 PM
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    Most, if not all, aloe vera toothpastes do not contain fluoride so are no good for decay prevention. Also there is no proper peer reviewed research to show aloe vera has any health benefits in the mouth.
    • alexthp
    • By alexthp 19th May 17, 5:57 AM
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    Whats called, Sensodine that is good if found in any toothpaste, it is good for all teeth diseases......

    Last edited by alexthp; 21-05-2017 at 8:50 AM.
    • heartbreak_star
    • By heartbreak_star 19th May 17, 9:19 AM
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    Euthymol has an abrasive index far above that recommended. It's good for cleaning bathroom grouting but not teeth as it will wear enamel away. It also has no fluoride.
    Originally posted by brook2jack
    I did not know this - thank you

    HBS x
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    • *~Zephyr~*
    • By *~Zephyr~* 19th May 17, 9:42 AM
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    Presumably oral-b pro-expert will be quite nice and not minty, once they have had to remove the nasty small plastic beads from the recipe.
    Originally posted by Lorian

    I can't use that stuff. I LOVED how clean it made my teeth feel, but within a day or two of using it the skin in my mouth was literally peeling off in sheets. It was vile.

    There's a lot about it online. Some people have said that the peeling stops after a few weeks, but others have complained that the peeling gets so bad their mouth starts to bleed!.

    Wish I could use it because I hear great things about how good it is for teeth, but its back to Colgate Cavity Protection for me
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 19th May 17, 10:28 AM
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    To be honest with the exception of toothpaste for sensitive teeth, and high fluoride toothpastes available on prescription, there is no toothpaste that is better than another , its up to personal choice.

    Whitening toothpastes do not whiten , they are abrasive and may scrape away stain but that is all.

    Effective cleaning with tepes etc is used to treat gum disease , the toothpastes which claim to do this are no better than ordinary toothpastes.

    Effective cleaning stops tartar build up , not a special toothpaste.

    No toothpaste can rebuild enamel in any way visible to the naked eye.

    Most toothpaste branding is a miracle of marketing with very little peer reviewed research to back it up.
    • sstevo19
    • By sstevo19 19th May 17, 6:11 PM
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    I can't use that stuff. I LOVED how clean it made my teeth feel, but within a day or two of using it the skin in my mouth was literally peeling off in sheets. It was vile.

    There's a lot about it online. Some people have said that the peeling stops after a few weeks, but others have complained that the peeling gets so bad their mouth starts to bleed!.

    Wish I could use it because I hear great things about how good it is for teeth, but its back to Colgate Cavity Protection for me
    Originally posted by *~Zephyr~*
    The exact same thing happened to me, it was horrible.
    • Lorian
    • By Lorian 19th May 17, 6:14 PM
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    The exact same thing happened to me, it was horrible.
    Originally posted by sstevo19
    Me too. loved the taste and feel - but like using sandpaper on your gums after a few days. I only tried it as samples were given away by my hygienist!
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 19th May 17, 7:34 PM
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    So use salt, soot, bicarb of soda or make your own tooth powder (usually contains bicarb but additional herbs like cloves mean a different taste & plenty effective! As in your mouth feels clean [but you are wearing your teeth down as you go].)
    A brush is not mandatory - a damp cloth can carry the powder as can a fingertip.

    When you tire of living history, do find a toothpowder with fluoride?
    • Ben84
    • By Ben84 19th May 17, 9:33 PM
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    There is no fluoride in Marvis toothpaste either, so another useless for decay prevention.
    Originally posted by brook2jack
    I think I understand what you mean, but to be clear, useless seems to suggest they're no better than not brushing your teeth at all! Surely it's not that bad?

    Anyway, I like fluoride paste - but not the foamy ones. Detergent gives me a bad stomach, even small amounts. Fortunately, some are detergent free. I like ultradex. The flavour of those is also milder than others I've tried too. Generally, some amount of chemically/minty is hard to avoid though.

    I'm not sure about pastes with microbeads. Could you end up with microbeads stuck in your gums? I don't know, but I'm sure I don't want to find out...
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 21st May 17, 8:47 AM
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    I think I understand what you mean, but to be clear, useless seems to suggest they're no better than not brushing your teeth at all! Surely it's not that bad?

    Anyway, I like fluoride paste - but not the foamy ones. Detergent gives me a bad stomach, even small amounts. Fortunately, some are detergent free. I like ultradex. The flavour of those is also milder than others I've tried too. Generally, some amount of chemically/minty is hard to avoid though.

    I'm not sure about pastes with microbeads. Could you end up with microbeads stuck in your gums? I don't know, but I'm sure I don't want to find out...
    Originally posted by Ben84
    The main point of brushing your teeth is to prevent gum disease - not to prevent decay.

    Gum disease happens when bacteria & various proteins build up on your teeth to form plaque. Plaque triggers an inflammatory response from the gums and that inflammatory resposnse brings about the various stages of gum disease from the early mild gum bleeding of gingivitis progressing right through to the bone distruction and tooth loss of advanced periodontitis!

    Cleaning the plaque off effectively stops this.

    If there is fluoride in the toothpaste, then this also has a protective effect on the tooth enamel and helps prevent decay. In fact the biggest reason for the drop in decay over the past 40 odd years has been fluoride in toothpaste.

    However - the best way to prevent decay is still by regulating the frequency that you have sugar. And if someone is a grazer, snacker or consumer of sugary drinks quite frequently, then they are going to have a problem with tooth decay that no amount of toothbrushing is going to solve.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • ripplyuk
    • By ripplyuk 22nd May 17, 8:25 AM
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    I can't use that stuff. I LOVED how clean it made my teeth feel, but within a day or two of using it the skin in my mouth was literally peeling off in sheets. It was vile.
    Originally posted by *~Zephyr~*
    Me too. My mouth was raw and felt burnt. There were blisters inside my lips. It was awful! Only with the pro-expert stuff though. I love the other oral-b toothpastes.

    OP, my old dentist once told me that the main cleaning comes from the act of brushing, not the toothpaste. You'll obviously miss out on the fluoride though.
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