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    • goodwithsaving
    • By goodwithsaving 15th May 17, 7:38 PM
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    Diesel?
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    • 15th May 17, 7:38 PM
    Diesel? 15th May 17 at 7:38 PM
    Apologies for another car question!
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    • Tammykitty
    • By Tammykitty 18th May 17, 11:28 AM
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    All fossil fuel burning vehicles are on their way out. Its only a matter of time. However as long as there are petrol cars there will be diesel cars too.

    Diesel should never have been the default choice for fuel type that it had become and if we're seeing that rebalance back to those who get a financial advantage from running on it then great.

    If you're doing 10-12,000 miles a year then you should never have been driving a diesel in the first place.

    Thats evidence of re-education, not that diesel is "on its way out".
    Originally posted by motorguy

    I think that is too much on a generalization and imo really only applies if you are buying expensive newish cars (under 5 years old).


    I used to do one 150 (75 mile & return) mile journey a week plus a few short journeys (so about 9,000 miles a year)


    At 35mpg - that's 256 gallons of petrol
    at 55mpg - that's 164 gallons of diesel


    At £5.00 a gallon (£1.10 a litre) - that's a saving of £460 a year
    Plus £100 cheaper tax


    Those savings more than counteract the increase maintenance costs and the increase cost of purchase cost of a second hand diesel (I paid £500 over the insurance value of my 7 year polo, to replace with a very similar polo in diesel)


    I now do 18,000 miles a year, so very glad I changed!
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    • andrewf75
    • By andrewf75 18th May 17, 11:30 AM
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    Appreciate those points, but I think the PCP thing is a bit more than the press whipping up a story. It’s become another way to squeeze more money out of people at a time when real wages are falling. I’d say the same about mobile phone contracts. Its not that it can’t be a good deal for some people, but I think the way it normalises the financing of a new car for those who would be better off making do with an older one is a cause for concern.
    Anyway, going a bit off topic…
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 18th May 17, 12:51 PM
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    I think that is too much on a generalization and imo really only applies if you are buying expensive newish cars (under 5 years old).


    I used to do one 150 (75 mile & return) mile journey a week plus a few short journeys (so about 9,000 miles a year)


    At 35mpg - that's 256 gallons of petrol
    at 55mpg - that's 164 gallons of diesel


    At £5.00 a gallon (£1.10 a litre) - that's a saving of £460 a year
    Plus £100 cheaper tax


    Those savings more than counteract the increase maintenance costs and the increase cost of purchase cost of a second hand diesel (I paid £500 over the insurance value of my 7 year polo, to replace with a very similar polo in diesel)


    I now do 18,000 miles a year, so very glad I changed!
    Originally posted by Tammykitty
    DPFs, DMFs and electronic EGR valves have been around since around 2005 / 2006 so i would contend that anyone running an up to 10 year old diesel doing average miles or less is exposing themselves to big bill risks

    I would also suggest that if your diesel is doing 55mpg theres a petrol variant out there probably doing 40-45mpg (or a similar petrol car that will)

    Thats your saving down to approx £230 a year. Then factor in increased servicing costs, increased purchase price, etc, and you might be down to a few pounds per week at best.

    It would only take one big diesel associated bill every four or five years to knock out that saving - something a "modern" diesel is very capable of doing.

    Certainly in the last 5 years petrol fuel economy has increased so thinking of the right now its easy to see why people are gravitating back to petrols.
    Last edited by motorguy; 18-05-2017 at 1:03 PM.
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