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    • lillianjcharlotte
    • By lillianjcharlotte 10th May 17, 1:46 AM
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    Link Parking residently PCN
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    • 10th May 17, 1:46 AM
    Link Parking residently PCN 10th May 17 at 1:46 AM
    Back in January I had a friend visiting at my flat. They were parked in my allocated space and the vehicle was registered using their online process. A PCN was on the windscreen the next day.

    I appealed on behalf of the driver/keeper and the appeal was denied due to there being no record of the vehicle being registered for the parking bay. I took the appeal further and it was again denied because I couldn't prove I had registered the vehicle and Link Parking said that confirmation of parking is provided at point of registration. This is not true and I have video evidence to prove this.

    I later received a letter fro Link Parking requesting payment for the PCN. I emailed this and a copy of my lease to the management company for the site and they advised they will contact Link Parking. Since then I have received a letter before claim from Gladstone Brookes.

    I have told Link Parking that I am not the registered keeper or driver of the vehicle but they claim I have admitted that I am - although in my IAS appeal it states I am appealing on behalf of the keeper. I also have a lease that shows the space is assigned to me and photographs of unauthorised vehicles who have previously parked in my space and have not been ticketed.

    The main sign at point of entry just says parking is for residents only and the link parking signs don't explicitly say you need to register the vehicle on the website - it just says authorised vehicles only and this vehicle was authorised as it was parked in my space with my permission.

    I'm concerned about this going to court and just want to know where I stand
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    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 15th Jun 17, 8:14 AM
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    Guys Dad
    No point in telling Gladstones any more, it would overload
    their limited brain power

    Keep everything just in case
    Originally posted by beamerguy
    It's not brain power. They get paid, win or lose so they keep sending their sacrificial lambs out to be slaughtered in court knowing the client will pay regardless.
    • lillianjcharlotte
    • By lillianjcharlotte 15th Jun 17, 8:58 AM
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    Landowners or Managing Agents.



    You need to state that clearly (again, in writing) so I say, you DO need to contact G's again, NOW. Keep proof of sending your email or letter (free proof of posting from the PO counter, NOT just posting a letter in a post box; NOT Recorded delivery).

    Otherwise they will use the letter they just sent you and will say ''look, she didn't reply, so it's only reasonable that we continued to believe she was driving.''
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    Thank you. I've emailed them this morning and have a digital and printed version of the email.
    I've explained to them again that when I said 'I received' it was in the literally sense, meaning the ticket was handed to me and that given it was relating to my parking space. I had already written to Link Parking to explain that.

    I also drew attention to the IAS case where Link reported that the appellant was the driver and keeper - by that stage I had already reported that as not being me and had named them in full for the appeal.

    I've also requested copies of the emails Link claim to have sent me when I authorised my personal vehicle. This whole argument is over me not being able to prove I registered the vehicle, with my counter argument being they never provide proof in the first place.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 15th Jun 17, 10:44 AM
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    I also drew attention to the IAS case where Link reported that the appellant was the driver and keeper - by that stage I had already reported that as not being me and had named them in full for the appeal.
    I've not read back through the entire thread, but if you are saying (above) that Link fed false information to the IAS and they accepted that over your statement, causing you to lose the case and bringing court proceedings raining down as a result, then you must complain to the DVLA (David Dunford), explain the circumstances and ask that he investigates this apparent perversion of the truth which is causing you great harm, harassment and distress.

    david.dunford@dvla.gsi.gov.uk
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • lillianjcharlotte
    • By lillianjcharlotte 15th Jun 17, 1:20 PM
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    I've not read back through the entire thread, but if you are saying (above) that Link fed false information to the IAS and they accepted that over your statement, causing you to lose the case and bringing court proceedings raining down as a result, then you must complain to the DVLA (David Dunford), explain the circumstances and ask that he investigates this apparent perversion of the truth which is causing you great harm, harassment and distress.

    david.dunford@dvla.gsi.gov.uk
    Originally posted by Umkomaas

    In the initial email I sent to Link on the day of the charge I worded it as 'I received a parking ticket' (foolish I know) but I worded it that way because I had received the ticket from the person whose vehicle it was and it was my parking space in question. I never explicitly stated it was my vehicle or that I was driving. I also emailed Link to advise this.


    In the IAS appeal for the motorist part I named the appellant as below:


    "You reported that the appellant was the driver and the registered keeper at the time the parking charge was issued. You reported that the appellant is being held liable for the parking charge. "


    Link Parking responded with:


    "The operator reported that...
    The appellant was the driver.
    The appellant was the keeper.
    The operator is seeking keeper liability in accordance with PoFA.."


    I named the appellant in full (name, address, postcode, vehicle registration) and it states that I am appealing on behalf of ________
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 15th Jun 17, 2:22 PM
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    Definite complaint to the DVLA.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • lillianjcharlotte
    • By lillianjcharlotte 15th Jun 17, 3:15 PM
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    Definite complaint to the DVLA.
    Originally posted by Umkomaas

    How much detail do I go into with a DVLA complaint. Do they need the whole backstory or just the IAS appeal and resulting court proceedings?
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 15th Jun 17, 3:29 PM
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    How much detail do I go into with a DVLA complaint. Do they need the whole backstory or just the IAS appeal and resulting court proceedings?
    Originally posted by lillianjcharlotte
    Well you do need to give them the background without wittering on about peripheral issues with no relevance. So a preamble to set the context, then, if you can, try to give them potent, one line bullet points to drive home the issue.

    That would be my style, but I'm conscious that people have their own style and preference for layout.

    But I wouldn't let it run to more than a maximum of 2 sides of A4.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 15th Jun 17, 4:40 PM
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    But I wouldn't let it run to more than a maximum of 2 sides of A4.


    I have had a lot of success in complaining, to Councils, utilities, banks, insurance companies, etc., etc., etc. My complaints rarely ever exceed one side of A4.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • lillianjcharlotte
    • By lillianjcharlotte 15th Jun 17, 6:36 PM
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    But I wouldn't let it run to more than a maximum of 2 sides of A4.


    I have had a lot of success in complaining, to Councils, utilities, banks, insurance companies, etc., etc., etc. My complaints rarely ever exceed one side of A4.
    Originally posted by The Deep

    So short, sweet and to the point?
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