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    • Mrs Optimist
    • By Mrs Optimist 5th May 17, 8:00 AM
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    Redundancy Issues
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    • 5th May 17, 8:00 AM
    Redundancy Issues 5th May 17 at 8:00 AM
    I was informed in writing in March that my role was redundant. I have not been given Notice.

    I had a further meeting last Month to try and decide if there was a suitable alternative. It was left that my boss would get back to me. He hasn't.

    However someone at work has changed her hours and I will now be covering her absence in my normal shifts, until I go at least.

    I asked my boss for a further meeting to clarify my redundancy as the 30 days consultation has expired and 2 weeks on I have heard nothing. I have been an employee for over 20 years.

    I'm not sure what I can do ? Am I redundant or not ? Is there a way I can force a decision to be made either way? It's such poor handling but typical of my work !
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    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 5th May 17, 8:43 AM
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    • 5th May 17, 8:43 AM
    Consultation can continue untill they make up their minds there is no time limit.

    Until they put you on notice you still have the job.

    You could start looking but risk losing the redundancy pay if you find something might be best to prepare and use the 12 weeks notice to go actively looking.
    • Mrs Optimist
    • By Mrs Optimist 18th May 17, 7:24 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 7:24 AM
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    • 18th May 17, 7:24 AM
    I now have another meeting next week. Does the consultation have to restart because nothing has happened since my last meeting at the beginning of April? Over 30 days ago?

    I suspect they will offer me a junior role involving a pay cut, but the reality would be that my workload will remain entirely unchanged, the only difference will be I am paid less money. What recourse do I have if this is the case ?
    • Mrs Optimist
    • By Mrs Optimist 27th May 17, 8:53 AM
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    • 27th May 17, 8:53 AM
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    • 27th May 17, 8:53 AM
    UPDATE

    I have finally been told my role is redundant and been given written confirmation!

    Such a relief. Now daunted but excited about entering the job hunting market again and dealing with agencies.

    I was reading about serving counter-notice as my boss did indicate that they may withdraw the notice within the 12 week period if they can find a suitable alternative (it is a budget and workload issue causing the redundancy). Now I have my notice I don't want them to backtrack. I'm in no rush to find another job, thankfully. Is it worth serving counter-notice just to agree my last working day? To prevent this happening? I don't need to gave another job to do that do I?
    • sangie595
    • By sangie595 27th May 17, 10:53 AM
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    • 27th May 17, 10:53 AM
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    • 27th May 17, 10:53 AM
    UPDATE

    I have finally been told my role is redundant and been given written confirmation!

    Such a relief. Now daunted but excited about entering the job hunting market again and dealing with agencies.

    I was reading about serving counter-notice as my boss did indicate that they may withdraw the notice within the 12 week period if they can find a suitable alternative (it is a budget and workload issue causing the redundancy). Now I have my notice I don't want them to backtrack. I'm in no rush to find another job, thankfully. Is it worth serving counter-notice just to agree my last working day? To prevent this happening? I don't need to gave another job to do that do I?
    Originally posted by Mrs Optimist
    Yes, you do need to have another job. If you want to do what you are suggesting, it's called resigning, not redundancy. You must understand that the employers legal duty is to not make people redundant if there is any possible way to avoid it. And that is what they will do. So if they find got a suitable alternative job, you must take it or lose the redundancy. Unless you have another job AND can legally serve counter notice. It does have strict rules as to when it can be served.
    • Takeaway_Addict
    • By Takeaway_Addict 27th May 17, 12:09 PM
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    • 27th May 17, 12:09 PM
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    • 27th May 17, 12:09 PM
    I was informed in writing in March that my role was redundant. I have not been given Notice.

    I had a further meeting last Month to try and decide if there was a suitable alternative. It was left that my boss would get back to me. He hasn't.

    However someone at work has changed her hours and I will now be covering her absence in my normal shifts, until I go at least.

    I asked my boss for a further meeting to clarify my redundancy as the 30 days consultation has expired and 2 weeks on I have heard nothing. I have been an employee for over 20 years.

    I'm not sure what I can do ? Am I redundant or not ? Is there a way I can force a decision to be made either way? It's such poor handling but typical of my work !
    Originally posted by Mrs Optimist
    And yet you lasted 20 years.....can't be that poor.
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