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    • Prayera
    • By Prayera 21st Apr 17, 1:01 PM
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    Lovell Homes
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    Lovell Homes 21st Apr 17 at 1:01 PM
    Hello everyone

    I am a first time buyer, looking to buy a new built. But I have a few questions, hoping you can share your opinions/experiences with me.

    I am looking at Lovell Homes in the Greater Manchester area, as the location of their development is ideal. What has been your experience with Lovell houses? (I am particularly interested in the quality in the long run - after a few years; but short-term/moving in info is also very useful)

    I am also looking at other developers, as safe options: Barratt Homes and Bellway - any thoughts on those?

    Thanks in advance!
    Last edited by Prayera; 21-04-2017 at 1:05 PM.
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    • Mickygg
    • By Mickygg 21st Apr 17, 1:14 PM
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    I bought from lovell several years ago down south. A truly terrible experience.
    The house was littered with snags and some pretty serious such as sink in wrong place so you had to wash up under a cupboard.
    Most of my neighbours experienced similar problems.
    Other problems included nails though the ceiling, tiles falling off, wonky sink, nearly all door frames replaced, rads replaced as chipped. I could go on and on.
    They took an age to fix some of the problems and I sold the house several years later with some still not sorted. For 2 years it was a constant battle to get things fixed. I wrote to the head of lovell with all my points at one point but that got me no where.
    I will never ever even look at a Lovell house again.
    • Victor the Gink
    • By Victor the Gink 21st Apr 17, 1:20 PM
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    Why do people buy new builds? Genuine question. General consensus on here is that the quality is poor, and you have to pay a premium/house goes down in value as soon as you walk in the door. Is it simply for the government bung?
    • Prayera
    • By Prayera 21st Apr 17, 1:27 PM
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    Why do people buy new builds? Genuine question. General consensus on here is that the quality is poor, and you have to pay a premium/house goes down in value as soon as you walk in the door. Is it simply for the government bung?
    Originally posted by Victor the Gink
    I am looking at things like insulation, pipes, energy efficiency, boilers.

    But to be honest, I am looking at well founded arguments pro and con. I am a novice, so would welcome the advice of more experienced folks
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 21st Apr 17, 1:30 PM
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    If it is a 2 bed property I would suggest that you buy a traditional terraced house instead. A 2 bed terrace will be cheaper and won't drop in value like a new 2 bed house will.
    • lee111s
    • By lee111s 21st Apr 17, 2:40 PM
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    Why do people buy new builds? Genuine question. General consensus on here is that the quality is poor, and you have to pay a premium/house goes down in value as soon as you walk in the door. Is it simply for the government bung?
    Originally posted by Victor the Gink
    That's like saying why do people buy new cars, or new clothes, appliances etc, the list goes on.


    Some are considerably better than others, and every home was a new home at one point.

    For me personally, it meant a detatched home in the area was want (not many 30's-80's houses are detatched). No real maintenance worries for at least 2 years with the guarantee, and really it should be a lot longer if the house is built to a good standard, which thus far it appears to be.

    Then you have the fact that it's modern, the layout is designed for modern living with a large kitchen/diner. It's efficient (3 storey, 4 bed detatched costing £80-90 per month for gas AND electricity in Winter, and that's with me working from home).
    • Prayera
    • By Prayera 22nd Apr 17, 3:38 PM
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    That's like saying why do people buy new cars, or new clothes, appliances etc, the list goes on.


    Some are considerably better than others, and every home was a new home at one point.

    For me personally, it meant a detatched home in the area was want (not many 30's-80's houses are detatched). No real maintenance worries for at least 2 years with the guarantee, and really it should be a lot longer if the house is built to a good standard, which thus far it appears to be.

    Then you have the fact that it's modern, the layout is designed for modern living with a large kitchen/diner. It's efficient (3 storey, 4 bed detatched costing £80-90 per month for gas AND electricity in Winter, and that's with me working from home).
    Originally posted by lee111s
    what developer did you use, if you don't mind me asking? and how long ago did you buy your house?
    • Chanes
    • By Chanes 22nd Apr 17, 4:50 PM
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    I really like new build houses but would avoid any that were leasehold and I would then check if there were estate charges.

    A freehold new build with no or small estate charges sounds good to me!
    • Mickygg
    • By Mickygg 22nd Apr 17, 6:45 PM
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    OP looks like all people want to do is discuss new builds rather than try and help answer your questions.

    Hopefully someone else with some experience of particular house builders will comment. I'm intrigued if others have had such a bad experience experience with Lovell like I have.
    • robatwork
    • By robatwork 22nd Apr 17, 8:30 PM
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    The problem is that some Lovell homes will be great and others awful.

    No house builder sets out to build crappy houses, but the major ones
    1) build down to a price not up to a quality
    2) have lots of sub contractors and sub sub contractors.

    I find that as you get more "subs" the quality goes down.

    There's no way you're going to know this unless you can talk to people already moved in to houses built nearly at the same time as yours (unlikely) or get surveys done as it's built - impractical. Just because one built 6 months ago is OK doesn't mean one built today will be - may be 30 different builders working on it.

    I learnt all this the hard way buying a house from one of the builders on your list. And I won't do it again no matter how well lagged the pipes are.
    • Prayera
    • By Prayera 23rd Apr 17, 7:56 PM
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    what is quite suspicious is that I looked online for reviews on Lovell, and I cannot find absolutely anything! I find dozens of reviews on Barratt Homes or Belway or Redrow, for example. I looked on google searched different Twitter hashtags, forums - nothing! How is that possible? I am hoping this thread would get more attention, to at least have some reviews on them online - good or bad.

    I'm all about the truth hehe
    • satchef1
    • By satchef1 23rd Apr 17, 10:49 PM
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    You don't find many reviews online for homes in general. And where there are reviews, they're almost exclusively negative, likely because people feel a need to vent their frustration. Not finding any reviews isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    With the lax quality control applied by most of the UK's major housebuilders, reviews aren't even particularly useful. You could go to two sites a mile apart, built by the same company, and find drastically different levels of quality.

    Start reading up on snagging and, once you have a good idea what to look for, go and view a finished home (not the show home, if possible). You'll get a good idea as to what the quality is like quite quickly.
    • Prayera
    • By Prayera 23rd Apr 17, 11:02 PM
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    Start reading up on snagging and, once you have a good idea what to look for, go and view a finished home (not the show home, if possible). You'll get a good idea as to what the quality is like quite quickly.
    Originally posted by satchef1
    that's very good advice, thanks!
    • Oscar12
    • By Oscar12 24th Apr 17, 10:08 AM
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    I bought a new build from Lovell in Manchester recently. The build quality was average to good and the after sales service has been ok. All in all it has been a good buy.
    • Prayera
    • By Prayera 24th Apr 17, 10:17 AM
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    I bought a new build from Lovell in Manchester recently. The build quality was average to good and the after sales service has been ok. All in all it has been a good buy.
    Originally posted by Oscar12
    that's good news! how long ago did you move in?
    • Oscar12
    • By Oscar12 24th Apr 17, 10:24 AM
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    I bought last year. Send me a PM if you need any further info.
    • Anthonig
    • By Anthonig 20th Sep 17, 10:07 AM
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    Hi,
    I Know this post was a while ago but just like to add to it.
    I have just purchased a Lovell home and will move in ,in around 2 weeks.
    My experiences so far have been ok, but we have barley been allowed to see the home and the progress made while its being built (some builders are keen to show you the progress). There seems to be hesitation to let us see it and we have only spent around 40 minutes in total in the house.
    While it was being built they had the wrong dormers and the house was left standing roofless in the rain for around 2 months and we had no information about this.
    Every time we ask about the snagging process we get told that we don't have to worry as we have two years after completion to sort this out.(basically moving in without a pre-snag session).
    This is not a rant ,just pointing things out to be aware of.
    Will re=post in a couple of weeks to update on the move.
    Good luck. hope you found a nice place in the end.
    • Anthonig
    • By Anthonig 3rd Oct 17, 1:26 PM
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    Hi, Just to inform again,

    The move went very well, even tho the house was not finished fully (i.e gas hobs were not connected to the gas,no front porch, roof light not working)... but on the Monday 90% of our snags were sorted and very friendly service and good quality.
    Some problems wont get fixed until a few weeks but the quality and finish of the house took our minds off this.
    Im overwhelmed with our new home and Lovell made it worth the 7 month wait.
    I've lived in many homes old and new and cannot see why people have a worry for new builds when its the developer that matters.
    Early days yet but i recommend Lovell to all. Thanks
    • gycraig
    • By gycraig 3rd Oct 17, 4:30 PM
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    Why do people buy new builds? Genuine question. General consensus on here is that the quality is poor, and you have to pay a premium/house goes down in value as soon as you walk in the door. Is it simply for the government bung?
    Originally posted by Victor the Gink
    Personally new builds where the only nice houses where I wanted to buy, I liked the fact I could just chuck my furniture in and crack on with my life with no major worries for the first few years.

    Costs pennies to run and came with a far better design / usage of space than most old houses.

    nice estate a stones throw from my job / town centre / train station.

    Loss of value is easily neutralised by the redecoration costs of old houses etc
    • wantonnoodle
    • By wantonnoodle 3rd Oct 17, 4:32 PM
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    While its not specifically related to new builds, Lovell were the contractors used by the council when my parent's house had a new kitchen fitted. From what I recall they were friendly, professional and the standard of workmanship was very good - certainly better than most contractors they'd seen the council send for various jobs over the years.

    So, on the assumption that their new builds are done to the same standard of workmanship (dangerous I know!!) I would suggest that they seem to be a decent company to buy off.
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