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    • blueorchid
    • By blueorchid 20th Apr 17, 8:41 PM
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    BEDBUGS - steamer ?
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:41 PM
    BEDBUGS - steamer ? 20th Apr 17 at 8:41 PM
    any recommendations for steamers to get rid of bedbugs?
    also -what's the position for claiming costs etc on travel insurance?

    son and friend have returned from few days in Berlin with bedbugs. I was on alert as they'd complained of bites and itches. They bought antihistamine ointment. I spotted a beastie crawling out of their luggage.
    I've contacted the Council, who insist on evidence, before discussing any action, then it's a question of joining a queue.
    We've now contained all their stuff in bin bags, but they'd been around the house before, so it might be contaminated.
    Suitcase has been thrown away, as apparently it's the most likely source.
    clothes have to be washed at 60degrees - this will ruin some of the clothes.
    coats will have to go to drycleaners etc.
    Not sure what to do about shoes?
    thank you
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    • DavidFx
    • By DavidFx 20th Apr 17, 9:54 PM
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    If you don't want to or cannot wash things then put them into a plastic bag and put in the freezer for 4 days.
    https://www.bedbugs.umn.edu/bed-bug-control-in-residences/freezing
    • blueorchid
    • By blueorchid 20th Apr 17, 10:22 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 10:22 PM
    thanks for pointing out this excellent impartial source. https://www.bedbugs.umn.edu/bed-bug-control-in-residences/steamers
    • SuzieSue
    • By SuzieSue 21st Apr 17, 12:34 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 12:34 PM
    coats will have to go to drycleaners etc.
    Originally posted by blueorchid
    Please do not do this as you might cause an outbreak at the dry cleaners.
    • culpepper
    • By culpepper 21st Apr 17, 1:11 PM
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    I have heard that borax is very effective to dispell them. We cant get it here now but there is a borax substitute which might be worth a try on things that cannot be made wet.
    I think you dust it on,leave it then vacuum or sweep it off.
    • Corona
    • By Corona 21st Apr 17, 1:30 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 1:30 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 1:30 PM
    Forgive me - I know this is too late for you now - my husband travels abroad a lot for work and whenever he comes home, I insist that he unpacks his suitcase in his study, and NOT in our bedroom. So, anything he brings home (yuck) is contained in a room we don't sleep in. We've been lucky so far, but you've reminded us all of the need to be on alert. I'd have expected this if they'd come home from a developing country but not Berlin!

    (And please do report the place they stayed at to the Berlin Tourist Board - and how about a warning post on TripAdvisor??)

    Good luck.
    • SuzieSue
    • By SuzieSue 21st Apr 17, 1:44 PM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 1:44 PM
    Forgive me - I know this is too late for you now - my husband travels abroad a lot for work and whenever he comes home, I insist that he unpacks his suitcase in his study, and NOT in our bedroom. So, anything he brings home (yuck) is contained in a room we don't sleep in.
    Originally posted by Corona
    But if you have bed bugs in your house, it doesn't matter which room they are in, you will still need to get rid of them. You are less likely to notice them in a study, so the infestation would become much harder to treat.

    I always check for bed bugs whenever I sleep away from home. You need to know what to look for.
    • no.1swimmum
    • By no.1swimmum 21st Apr 17, 1:54 PM
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    Suziesue I'm glad that I'm not the only one who does this, DH thinks I am mad but the first thing I do in either a rented property or hotel etc is to lift all the bedding and investigate the mattress thoroughly.

    • SuzieSue
    • By SuzieSue 21st Apr 17, 2:16 PM
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    Suziesue I'm glad that I'm not the only one who does this, DH thinks I am mad but the first thing I do in either a rented property or hotel etc is to lift all the bedding and investigate the mattress thoroughly.
    Originally posted by no.1swimmum
    Yes, my DH thinks I am mad too. He gets really worried if we are in the company of other people and someone mentions bedbugs as he knows I will go on and on about them. He thinks I am obsessed by them and I think I am to a certain extent but prevention is better than cure.
    • blueorchid
    • By blueorchid 21st Apr 17, 10:55 PM
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    Bed bug eradication seems to be a huge job. Agree posters above that voidance is best bet. we opened their case on plastic in the hall, and on spotting the bug, bagged everything. We are now awaiting a response from the council, but anticipate having the house sprayed twice.
    • MimiJane
    • By MimiJane 22nd Apr 17, 2:56 PM
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    A 60 degree wash will kill all bed bugs and eggs. There is no need to wash "clean" clothing if you don't want to and have a tumble drier. Just tumble dry on the hottest setting for at least 30 minutes and this kills everything.

    They love wood and fabric and will hide in tiny crevices. They don't like plastic and metal. It's important to hoover along the edges of carpets regularly and it's a good idea to use a hand-held steamer in these areas also to kill them off/keep them at bay.

    We've had them twice in the last year due to regularly using public transport (ever since not having a car). Apparently this is one of the most popular ways of bringing them into your home. I get bitten really badly, but my husband doesn't (or he doesn't get a reaction). It's made me paranoid we'll get them again ...
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    • SuzieSue
    • By SuzieSue 22nd Apr 17, 3:00 PM
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    we opened their case on plastic in the hall, and on spotting the bug, bagged everything.
    Originally posted by blueorchid
    With hindsight it would be been best to unpack outside (for the benefit of anyone else who has come in to contact with bed bugs).
    • coffeehound
    • By coffeehound 22nd Apr 17, 3:39 PM
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    We've had them twice in the last year due to regularly using public transport (ever since not having a car). Apparently this is one of the most popular ways of bringing them into your home.
    Originally posted by MimiJane
    Ah thanks, that's probably how they got into my place earlier in the year then since I've started using buses. They seem to have gone now without needing insecticide.
    • Auntie-Dolly
    • By Auntie-Dolly 22nd Apr 17, 3:42 PM
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    I'm just wondering what has the council got to do with it?
    • blueorchid
    • By blueorchid 22nd Apr 17, 3:45 PM
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    Auntie-Dolly: the council have a pest control department
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    • By Auntie-Dolly 22nd Apr 17, 3:47 PM
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    I used to keep chickens and diatomaceous earth works well in eradicating red mite and it can also be used for bed bugs. It is a dry powder you brush in the crevices and it drys up the little critters. A gas powered weed burner also works wonders!
    • blueorchid
    • By blueorchid 22nd Apr 17, 3:51 PM
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    thanks MimiJane. what steam cleaner do you use? I was wondering about getting one.
    I read that they need to get surfaces must reach a temperature range of 160-180F to kill the bedbugs.
    https://bedbugs.dev.umn.edu/node/126/steamers
    • Jimmithecat
    • By Jimmithecat 22nd Apr 17, 4:45 PM
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    My sister had an infestation recently and it proved to be a nightmare.
    Treatment was not claimable on either travel or house insurance as there was no evidence of where they originated.
    They were everywhere - picture frames, skirting boards. Mattresses had to be discarded.
    Local council do not have facilities to deal with the infestation but could only recommend a company to do the treatment.
    She opted for rentokil in the end as they guaranteed to clear the infestation - they were very thorough and ended up treating the house twice as they did not clear the first time.
    I hope you have caught yours sooner and it is more straightforward to deal with
    • MimiJane
    • By MimiJane 22nd Apr 17, 10:49 PM
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    Sometimes local councils will treat an infestation, but others don't. Ours don't unfortunately and we used a local pest control company that I found through the NHS website, who charge a fraction of the price Rentokil charge, though I don't know if Rentokil may have been more effective. From extensive Googling, the bugs can go without feeding for about a year, so maybe they weren't all destroyed and multiplied again, or we're just very unlucky ... who knows! I'd love to know why the bugs seem to be attracted to certain people.

    Blueorchid : I think you're right about the temperature required to kill the bugs with a steam cleaner. Must admit we haven't used ours yet on the carpet edges, but have used it in other areas and it seems fine. I'm worried about it taking the paint off the skirting boards, so maybe we'll try it in a small area to test it out.

    We bought ours from Amazon : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aspectek-Comforday-Multi-Purpose-Pressurized-Accessories/dp/B01FUYZKVO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1492897290&sr=8-2&keywords=hand-held+steam+cleaner
    Wins 2017 = 175


    MANY THANKS TO ALL OPS. - xx
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