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    • General query
    • By General query 20th Apr 17, 8:14 PM
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    General query
    Refund entitlement on a 2nd hand diesel car bought yesterday
    • #1
    • 20th Apr 17, 8:14 PM
    Refund entitlement on a 2nd hand diesel car bought yesterday 20th Apr 17 at 8:14 PM
    Hi,

    Bit of a long shot but our beloved 10 year old car died on us, automatic gearbox packed up.

    We need a car as we have a little baby boy with lot's of hospital appointments to get to, so looked at several replacements.

    Ended up buying a nice (bigger) Vauxhall Meriva but it was a diesel.

    Never had a diesel before but we needed a car and the much needed extra space.

    Now 24 hours on, all this Diesel tax stuff is in the news.

    We're not happy about this or the prospect of being stuck with a heavily future taxed car that is now worth nothing if the government gets its way and charges £20 just to drive into cities in the not so distant future.

    Never mind all the threats of quadrupling road tax and massively hiking diesel costs at the petrol pump.

    is there no comeback / cooling off period when you buy a 2nd hand car. We only bought it / drove it home yesterday and 24 hours on this is all over the news.

    Just great.

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    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:17 PM
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    • #2
    • 20th Apr 17, 8:17 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:17 PM
    I'm sure the dealer will take it back at trade price. Given there's nothing wrong with the car you have no rights to return it.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 20th Apr 17, 8:24 PM
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    • #3
    • 20th Apr 17, 8:24 PM
    • #3
    • 20th Apr 17, 8:24 PM
    Do you live in an urban or rural area? Do you regularly drive more than just a few miles a day? Is it a new car, if not how old?

    As has been said, you will probably lose money taking it back. Without a mechanical or safety reason to quote for asking to be refunded, you have no chance of receiving your money back in full. In fact, sorry to say, the garage can just say, no dice chum, the car is yours.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 20th Apr 17, 8:38 PM
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    • #4
    • 20th Apr 17, 8:38 PM
    • #4
    • 20th Apr 17, 8:38 PM
    Hi,

    Bit of a long shot but our beloved 10 year old car died on us, automatic gearbox packed up.

    We need a car as we have a little baby boy with lot's of hospital appointments to get to, so looked at several replacements.

    Ended up buying a nice (bigger) Vauxhall Meriva but it was a diesel.

    Never had a diesel before but we needed a car and the much needed extra space.

    Now 24 hours on, all this Diesel tax stuff is in the news.

    We're not happy about this or the prospect of being stuck with a heavily future taxed car that is now worth nothing if the government gets its way and charges £20 just to drive into cities in the not so distant future.

    Never mind all the threats of quadrupling road tax and massively hiking diesel costs at the petrol pump.

    is there no comeback / cooling off period when you buy a 2nd hand car. We only bought it / drove it home yesterday and 24 hours on this is all over the news.

    Just great.

    Originally posted by General query
    Its extremely unlikely that there will be tax changes retrospectively.

    Also, its very unlikely that diesel prices at the pump will go up significantly as that would push up transport costs for public transport, lorries, etc.

    Its unlikely that there will be universal £20 charges into ALL cities anytime in the next decade.

    Its been "all over the news" for months - and its mostly hot air and the papers spreading doom and gloom.

    Buyers remorse? Hardly the dealers fault? Why would they refund you?
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 20th Apr 17, 8:39 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:39 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:39 PM
    FWIW i've just today bought a 2016 Passat diesel.

    Not one !!!! do i give about the nonsense in the news.
    Last edited by motorguy; 20-04-2017 at 10:27 PM.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • debtdebt
    • By debtdebt 20th Apr 17, 9:21 PM
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    debtdebt
    • #6
    • 20th Apr 17, 9:21 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 9:21 PM
    Don't listen to all the hype. Enjoy your car for what it is and don't stress. That's all you can do really. The selling garage have no duty to take back a car where there is nothing wrong.
    • Nasqueron
    • By Nasqueron 20th Apr 17, 11:09 PM
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    • #7
    • 20th Apr 17, 11:09 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:09 PM
    Changes to VED are not retrospective, what you pay now will be what you pay next year. Only the dirty older diesels are being taxed out of London, the newer ones aren't.

    The London diesel tax (only affects London, no other city) was announced 12th Feb 2017 so you already knew this (it was not announced yesterday)
    • waamo
    • By waamo 20th Apr 17, 11:18 PM
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    • #8
    • 20th Apr 17, 11:18 PM
    • #8
    • 20th Apr 17, 11:18 PM
    Given that tax won't be retrospective are you now delighted with it?
    This space for hire.
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 20th Apr 17, 11:35 PM
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    • #9
    • 20th Apr 17, 11:35 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:35 PM
    They will apply it to petrol cars as well.
    Just wait, they always set sides against each other first.
    Brexit will become whatever they invent it to be.
    • macman
    • By macman 21st Apr 17, 2:35 AM
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    macman
    Unless you need to drive into central London, then you won't be paying extra to drive diesels into cities for several years yet.
    There is no statutory cooling off period on anything you buy in a shop or showroom, though the dealer's own terms may offer something-have you checked?
    As stated above, diesels are unsuited to short runs, which leads to DPF problems. That is the main downside to them.
    'VWgate' does not seem to have affected diesel residuals much, and VW have increased sales globally since.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 21st Apr 17, 6:01 AM
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    Strider590
    Some prior research next time perhaps, this stuff has been flying around for months, not 24 hours.
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • wazza99
    • By wazza99 21st Apr 17, 6:14 AM
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    wazza99
    A Troll dont waste your time replying.
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 21st Apr 17, 7:28 AM
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    Johno100
    A Troll dont waste your time replying.
    Originally posted by wazza99
    Are you sure? A poster with many more posts than you waits 5 years from joining to troll the board, nah can't agree.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 21st Apr 17, 8:24 AM
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    AdrianC
    Some prior research next time perhaps, this stuff has been flying around for months, not 24 hours.
    Originally posted by Strider590
    Years, not months.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30381223
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 21st Apr 17, 5:48 PM
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    Tarambor
    is there no comeback / cooling off period when you buy a 2nd hand car. We only bought it / drove it home yesterday and 24 hours on this is all over the news.

    Just great.

    Originally posted by General query
    Its been on the news for at least a month. You have no right to return it, they have no obligation to give you your money back.

    If they hike up the cost of diesel it screws over haulage companies and 95% of all goods in the UK move by road.

    As for the cost, today my local petrol station was charging 1p/l more for unleaded than diesel.
    • camelot1971
    • By camelot1971 21st Apr 17, 6:01 PM
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    If I had to drive a Meriva I'd want to return it too.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 21st Apr 17, 6:19 PM
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    Robisere
    If I had to drive a Meriva I'd want to return it too.
    Originally posted by camelot1971
    me too!
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • 306chris
    • By 306chris 21st Apr 17, 7:03 PM
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    306chris
    If I had to drive a Meriva I'd want to return it too.
    Originally posted by camelot1971
    I had one for a few hours and it ended up like this



    I let a passenger drive as I was tired and he tried to overtake a tractor that was turning right.
    Bedroom Tax / Spare room subsidy / Housing Benefit Reduction - It's the same thing, get over it.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 21st Apr 17, 7:08 PM
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    Aylesbury Duck
    I had one for a few hours and it ended up like this



    I let a passenger drive as I was tired and he tried to overtake a tractor that was turning right.
    Originally posted by 306chris
    You had a lucky escape.

    You might have been stuck with it for longer.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 21st Apr 17, 8:49 PM
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    motorguy
    I had one for a few hours and it ended up like this



    I let a passenger drive as I was tired and he tried to overtake a tractor that was turning right.
    Originally posted by 306chris
    Looks like several thousand worth of damage improvements there

    Joking aside, i quite like the Meriva. I always found them to be easy resold when i was motor trading
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