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    • palgrave
    • By palgrave 20th Apr 17, 7:19 PM
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    Car failed MOT. Is garage being honest?
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    • 20th Apr 17, 7:19 PM
    Car failed MOT. Is garage being honest? 20th Apr 17 at 7:19 PM
    My car was due a recall for the airbag,. So I booked it in at my nearest Honda main dealer and thought I may as well get the MOT done too.

    They failed the MOT stating the front lower control arm compliances bushes split. They also suggested to replace both from drop links. They quoted £480 for the repair including VAT!!

    I'm quite dubious on whether the bushes actually need replacing as the car drives fine. The alignment is slightly off but tracking should sort that out. How can I know whether they do really need replacing or not??
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    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Apr 17, 9:22 PM
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    BeenThroughItAll
    Wow, I used to have one.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Me too... Still around somewhere.
    • waamo
    • By waamo 20th Apr 17, 9:45 PM
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    waamo
    Me too... Still around somewhere.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    I bought my last car from that garage.
    This space for hire.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 21st Apr 17, 5:54 PM
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    Tarambor

    I'm quite dubious on whether the bushes actually need replacing as the car drives fine. The alignment is slightly off but tracking should sort that out. How can I know whether they do really need replacing or not??
    Originally posted by palgrave
    Funnily enough worn track control arm bushes can cause that as worn bushes alter the steering geometry so it kind of sounds like the car actually wasn't driving fine at all given you acknowledge the tracking was slightly off so in that one sentence you've confirmed they were right.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 21st Apr 17, 6:25 PM
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    Robisere
    Well seems that Palgrave has retired without responding. A coomon trait with some of his posts, I believe.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • palgrave
    • By palgrave 21st Apr 17, 6:59 PM
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    palgrave
    Hey, thank you for the "useful" replies. I've had the car tested at my local one and hey presto it passed! They did actually say the front lower arm bushes were perished but I can replace that early next year. As for other advisories I got this:
    Nearside Front Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)
    Offside Rear Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)
    Nearside Rear Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)

    What does this mean?
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 21st Apr 17, 7:06 PM
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    AndyMc.....
    Hey, thank you for the "useful" replies. I've had the car tested at my local one and hey presto it passed! They did actually say the front lower arm bushes were perished but I can replace that early next year. As for other advisories I got this:
    Nearside Front Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)
    Offside Rear Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)
    Nearside Rear Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)

    What does this mean?
    Originally posted by palgrave
    It means you're !!!!!!!!ting again.
    • Nodding Donkey
    • By Nodding Donkey 21st Apr 17, 7:07 PM
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    It means three of your valve stems are damaged.
    • facade
    • By facade 21st Apr 17, 7:07 PM
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    facade
    Nearside Front Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)
    Offside Rear Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)
    Nearside Rear Valve stem slightly damaged (4.1.D.1e)

    What does this mean?
    Originally posted by palgrave
    Means you need new valves in the tyres.

    I had an advisory for a perished valve once, didn't take long after for it to look like it was about to disintegrate.

    A new valve was around 50p, and a bit of a struggle to fit it, but no doubt a tyre fitters would change them out for under £10 a wheel.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science )
    • palgrave
    • By palgrave 21st Apr 17, 7:11 PM
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    palgrave
    Great so not an expensive fix! I'm so surprised the MOT undertaken by the Crown Honda dealership thieves said the rear central light bulb needs replacing, when it doesn't even have a rear central light!!
    At least the thieves did the recall free of charge
    • palgrave
    • By palgrave 21st Apr 17, 7:15 PM
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    palgrave
    Oh one more thing, I requested my local garage to do a wheel alignment as the Honda main dealers didn't do it unless I authorised the £500 repair cost to pass the MOT first! Anyway my local independent said the tracking is dead on. So I don't know why the wheel pulls slightly to the left and on the motorway have to leave it slightly 3-4 degrees to the left for it to be straight??
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 21st Apr 17, 7:20 PM
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    AndyMc.....
    Oh one more thing, I requested my local garage to do a wheel alignment as the Honda main dealers didn't do it unless I authorised the £500 repair cost to pass the MOT first! Anyway my local independent said the tracking is dead on. So I don't know why the wheel pulls slightly to the left and on the motorway have to leave it slightly 3-4 degrees to the left for it to be straight??
    Originally posted by palgrave
    What you doing driving on the motorway without a licence?
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 25th Apr 17, 8:50 PM
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    Herzlos
    So I don't know why the wheel pulls slightly to the left and on the motorway have to leave it slightly 3-4 degrees to the left for it to be straight??
    Originally posted by palgrave
    Could it be the worn bushes you were told about by the main dealer?
    You've acknowledged they need replaced, just replace them.

    Or, y'know, stop this fantasy game, it's really, really, weird.
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