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    • palgrave
    • By palgrave 20th Apr 17, 7:19 PM
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    Car failed MOT. Is garage being honest?
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    • 20th Apr 17, 7:19 PM
    Car failed MOT. Is garage being honest? 20th Apr 17 at 7:19 PM
    My car was due a recall for the airbag,. So I booked it in at my nearest Honda main dealer and thought I may as well get the MOT done too.

    They failed the MOT stating the front lower control arm compliances bushes split. They also suggested to replace both from drop links. They quoted £480 for the repair including VAT!!

    I'm quite dubious on whether the bushes actually need replacing as the car drives fine. The alignment is slightly off but tracking should sort that out. How can I know whether they do really need replacing or not??
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    • Celtic452
    • By Celtic452 20th Apr 17, 7:23 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 7:23 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 7:23 PM
    Is the previous MOT still valid? If so I'd ask for a second opinion from a different garage. That is assuming carrying out a new MOT check does not invalidate the old one. Probably better to wait for someone more knowledgeable than me to answer / confirm.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 7:29 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 7:29 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 7:29 PM
    My car was due a recall for the airbag,. So I booked it in at my nearest Honda main dealer and thought I may as well get the MOT done too.

    They failed the MOT stating the front lower control arm compliances bushes split. They also suggested to replace both from drop links. They quoted £480 for the repair including VAT!!

    I'm quite dubious on whether the bushes actually need replacing as the car drives fine. The alignment is slightly off but tracking should sort that out. How can I know whether they do really need replacing or not??
    Originally posted by palgrave
    Bit of a money pit that new car of yours.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 20th Apr 17, 8:18 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:18 PM
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    Take a look at your front tyres. Are they both worn on one edge: inner or outer part of the tread? Is one tyre wearing worse than the other, and/or in a different area of tread? It may not be just a Tracking issue. Steering geometry can be complex to measure, calibrate and set up and there can be many reasons for problems, including the bushes and drop links mentioned.

    I would risk another MOT fee and test at another testing station. If the results are the same, or broadly similar, you have your answer. If the second garage offers a significantly cheaper price for the same repairs, you have another answer.

    Does seem to give you some expensive problems, that "old banger" you have referred to elsewhere on the Forum. Heh heh.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • cajef
    • By cajef 20th Apr 17, 8:20 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:20 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:20 PM
    Bit of a money pit that new car of yours.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    That is the problem with buying an 'old banger'.
    I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Apr 17, 8:24 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:24 PM
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    That's the problem with these imaginary Hondas. Build quality is terrible.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:27 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:27 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:27 PM
    Car failed MOT. Is garage being honest?

    I think the question is, are you being honest?
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:28 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:28 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:28 PM
    That's the problem with these imaginary Hondas. Build quality is terrible.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    It must be the Vauxhall VXR partnership.
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Apr 17, 8:31 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:31 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:31 PM
    And the new owner of a 'performance BMW' just happens to have been the first to reply, with their first post on the forum.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:33 PM
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    And the new owner of a 'performance BMW' just happens to have been the first to reply, with their first post on the forum.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    The two hander who crashed his beloved msport?
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Apr 17, 8:34 PM
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    The two hander who crashed his beloved msport?
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    I suspect split-personality disorder. We're into the 'replying to own threads' phase.

    The great reveal should happen within the next 48hours or so.
    • Celtic452
    • By Celtic452 20th Apr 17, 8:36 PM
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    Yeah thought I'd try and help someone else out rather than just leeching off the forum with my first post. Since when I refreshed the motoring section this topic was next to mine and it looked like something I could provide a bit of advice on. Evidently that seems to be a bad thing in your books, why don't you try helping either of us instead of speculating....
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:36 PM
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    I suspect split-personality disorder. We're into the 'replying to own threads' phase.

    The great reveal should happen within the next 48hours or so.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    When the drugs wear off?
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Apr 17, 8:38 PM
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    Yeah thought I'd try and help someone else out rather than just leeching off the forum with my first post. Since when I refreshed the motoring section this topic was next to mine and it looked like something I could provide a bit of advice on. Evidently that seems to be a bad thing in your books, why don't you try helping either of us instead of speculating....
    Originally posted by Celtic452
    Ok, here's some help for you. You bought a car from 3.5hours away. Your choice, not the dealer's problem.

    If you want to reject it, take it back. Otherwise, suck up the cost of a couple of wheels. Sorted.

    And for the OP, some help: buy a performance BMW instead of a Honda banger. Something like an M3 would be a good choice.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:42 PM
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    Yeah thought I'd try and help someone else out rather than just leeching off the forum with my first post. Since when I refreshed the motoring section this topic was next to mine and it looked like something I could provide a bit of advice on. Evidently that seems to be a bad thing in your books, why don't you try helping either of us instead of speculating....
    Originally posted by Celtic452
    You're not an expert on the subject but give it time.
    • Celtic452
    • By Celtic452 20th Apr 17, 8:48 PM
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    OP - I'd probably ignore half of these lot as their posts seem to be pretty useless and sarcastic. Robisere has provided some good advice and I also agree getting another garage to check is a good idea, even if it costs you a small amount for the check, at least you'll have peace of mind.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:50 PM
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    OP - I'd probably ignore half of these lot as their posts seem to be pretty useless and sarcastic. Robisere has provided some good advice and I also agree getting another garage to check is a good idea, even if it costs you a small amount for the check, at least you'll have peace of mind.
    Originally posted by Celtic452
    Any suggestions on who should mot the imaginary car?
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Apr 17, 8:55 PM
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    Any suggestions on who should mot the imaginary car?
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....


    These people have a slot tomorrow.
    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 20th Apr 17, 8:57 PM
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    These people have a slot tomorrow.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    Wow, I used to have one.
    • Joe Horner
    • By Joe Horner 20th Apr 17, 9:01 PM
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    Oh, this is getting so predictable now. I was almost giving the benefit of the doubt but then the same old posting traits appear.
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