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    • Popscoops
    • By Popscoops 20th Apr 17, 1:57 PM
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    People with heart disease and cancer less likely to cycle Glasgow Uni study finds
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    • 20th Apr 17, 1:57 PM
    People with heart disease and cancer less likely to cycle Glasgow Uni study finds 20th Apr 17 at 1:57 PM
    Want to live longer? Reduce your risk of cancer? And heart disease? Then cycle to work, say scientists.

    The biggest study into the issue linked using two wheels with a halving of the risk of cancer and heart disease.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39641122
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    • bap98189
    • By bap98189 20th Apr 17, 2:21 PM
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    Exercise is good for you shocker!!!
    • indesisiv
    • By indesisiv 20th Apr 17, 2:22 PM
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    So what it is saying is that exercise is good for you?
    As it doesn't mention what else people do outside of the commute its hard to get anything else out of the article.
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    • kathrynha
    • By kathrynha 20th Apr 17, 2:26 PM
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    Cycling reduces your risk of cancer and heart disease, but probably increases your risk of lung disease from pollution, and the risk of dying in a road accident!
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    • By Popscoops 20th Apr 17, 2:26 PM
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    Exercise is good for you shocker!!!
    Originally posted by bap98189

    Healthy people are able exercise more than sick people.

    The way the study, published in the British Medical Journal, was carried out means it is not possible to determine a clear cause and effect.
    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 20th Apr 17, 2:44 PM
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    Cycling reduces your risk of cancer and heart disease, but probably increases your risk of lung disease from pollution, and the risk of dying in a road accident!
    Originally posted by kathrynha
    The risk from doing no exercise is seven times greater than the risk from traffic and pollution.

    http://sustainablecities.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/ehp.Do-the-Health-Benefits-of-Cylcing-outweigh-the-risk.pdf
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    • By jack_pott 20th Apr 17, 2:52 PM
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    Healthy people are able exercise more than sick people.
    Originally posted by Popscoops
    They are surveying which healthy people become sick, not which sick people choose to exercise.
    • kathrynha
    • By kathrynha 20th Apr 17, 2:57 PM
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    The risk from doing no exercise is seven times greater than the risk from traffic and pollution.

    http://sustainablecities.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/ehp.Do-the-Health-Benefits-of-Cylcing-outweigh-the-risk.pdf
    Originally posted by jack_pott
    Think that depends where you cycle.


    For me to cycle to work I would have to cycle along a road where the pollution levels exceed targets considerably, and there are regular reports of cyclists being injured or killed.

    My husbands cycle to work has seen him have a number of near misses, and a couple of people attempt to steal his bike off him at traffic lights, although now he has a very visible helmet cam and he has adjusted his route things have improved.
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    • Popscoops
    • By Popscoops 20th Apr 17, 3:02 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 3:02 PM
    The risk from doing no exercise is seven times greater than the risk from traffic and pollution.

    http://sustainablecities.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/ehp.Do-the-Health-Benefits-of-Cylcing-outweigh-the-risk.pdf
    Originally posted by jack_pott


    That link does not substantiate the claim made.

    Try again.
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 20th Apr 17, 3:14 PM
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    Cycling is bad for men with prostate problems.

    Regular sexual intercourse is good for men with prostate problems.

    I already have heart failure and am being screened for prostate cancer.

    Which would be better for me health-wise; a bike or a bonk?

    I shall go and ask my Lovely Cousin what she thinks.
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    • Popscoops
    • By Popscoops 20th Apr 17, 3:16 PM
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    They are surveying which healthy people become sick, not which sick people choose to exercise.
    Originally posted by jack_pott
    Prove it.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 20th Apr 17, 5:28 PM
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    That link does not substantiate the claim made.

    Try again.
    Originally posted by Popscoops

    "the well-documented beneficial effect of increased physical activity due to cycling resulted in about 9 times more gains in life-years than the losses in life years due to increased inhaled air pollution doses and traffic accidents. For the society as a whole this can be even larger because of reduced air pollution emissions. If the risk presented to other road users is included, the risk of a fatal traffic accident is virtually the same for cyclists and car drivers."

    The above figure is for the Netherlands, it then goes on to say:

    "we repeated the traffic accident calculations for the United Kingdom, where the risk of dying per 100 million km for a cyclist is about 2.5 times higher.........benefits of cycling are still 7 times larger than the risks."
    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 20th Apr 17, 5:33 PM
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    Prove it.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
    Originally posted by Popscoops

    "Association between active commuting and incident cardiovascular disease, cancer, and mortality: prospective cohort study"
    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 20th Apr 17, 5:42 PM
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    For me to cycle to work I would have to cycle along a road where the pollution levels exceed targets considerably, and there are regular reports of cyclists being injured or killed.
    Originally posted by kathrynha
    Availability Heuristic: The more easily something can be recalled, the more the probability of it happening is overestimated. (Thus when one big train crash gets plastered all over the media everyone deserts the railways in favour of cars that are more dangerous.)
    • Popscoops
    • By Popscoops 20th Apr 17, 8:56 PM
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    "the well-documented beneficial effect of increased physical activity due to cycling resulted in about 9 times more gains in life-years than the losses in life years due to increased inhaled air pollution doses and traffic accidents. For the society as a whole this can be even larger because of reduced air pollution emissions. If the risk presented to other road users is included, the risk of a fatal traffic accident is virtually the same for cyclists and car drivers."

    The above figure is for the Netherlands, it then goes on to say:

    "we repeated the traffic accident calculations for the United Kingdom, where the risk of dying per 100 million km for a cyclist is about 2.5 times higher.........benefits of cycling are still 7 times larger than the risks."
    Originally posted by jack_pott
    There is no evidence to back up their claim, they assume their claim is correct as a starting point for their study.

    There are so many assumption in the "study" it is worthless, it is not even a study it is a idiot looking at some figures and making assumptions that are not justified.

    Ie the whole thing is based on assumptions not evidence.
    • Popscoops
    • By Popscoops 20th Apr 17, 9:19 PM
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    Just nonsense.

    Basically all it is say is dead (and sick) people do not cycle much, but I already know that.

    A load of crap.

    Disturbing to think doctors were involved it it ad that tax payer money is being burned like there is no tomorrow to produce Sh*t.
    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 22nd Apr 17, 5:15 PM
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    Just nonsense.

    Basically all it is say is dead (and sick) people do not cycle much, but I already know that.

    A load of crap.

    Disturbing to think doctors were involved it it ad that tax payer money is being burned like there is no tomorrow to produce Sh*t.
    Originally posted by Popscoops
    You clearly haven't a clue what prospective cohort study means.
    • jack_pott
    • By jack_pott 22nd Apr 17, 5:25 PM
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    Ie the whole thing is based on assumptions not evidence.
    Originally posted by Popscoops
    Health benefits of physical activity: the evidence

    Complete with 152 references for you.

    Inactivity carries roughly the same health risk as smoking.
    • Johno100
    • By Johno100 22nd Apr 17, 5:32 PM
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    Health benefits of physical activity: the evidence

    Complete with 152 references for you.

    Inactivity carries roughly the same health risk as smoking.
    Originally posted by jack_pott
    Sorry to break this to you, but cycling isn't the only form of exercise out there.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 22nd Apr 17, 8:59 PM
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    Cycling is bad for men with prostate problems.

    Regular sexual intercourse is good for men with prostate problems.

    I already have heart failure and am being screened for prostate cancer.

    Which would be better for me health-wise; a bike or a bonk?

    I shall go and ask my Lovely Cousin what she thinks.
    Originally posted by Fruitcake
    You could always try a bonk on a bike, although I suspect that may result in a third problem.
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