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    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 20th Apr 17, 11:42 AM
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    50Twuncle
    Win 10 creators edition
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:42 AM
    Win 10 creators edition 20th Apr 17 at 11:42 AM
    I have just updated my laptop to Creators Edition and so far are extremely unimpressed
    I was running Professional (1703) I think) which I was happyish with
    But on updating - I see no improvement at all
    I see several mistakes by MS - such as missing the ability to check what updates are already installed
    But no signs of any changes to the OS itself
    It was a large download - and took me the best part of an hour to get it up and running
    Classic shell didn't like it and needed reinstalling
    Edge came up as the default btowser - easily remedied
    Don't bother unless you are bored........
    Last edited by 50Twuncle; 20-04-2017 at 11:46 AM.
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    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 20th Apr 17, 11:55 AM
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    • #2
    • 20th Apr 17, 11:55 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:55 AM
    Creators Update is 1703. Perhaps you meant 1607.
    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 20th Apr 17, 12:13 PM
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    Undervalued
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    • 20th Apr 17, 12:13 PM
    • #3
    • 20th Apr 17, 12:13 PM
    Maybe that is why the vast majority of professionals in "creative" fields prefer Macs?
    • emptybox
    • By emptybox 20th Apr 17, 12:20 PM
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    • #4
    • 20th Apr 17, 12:20 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 12:20 PM
    There are a few changes in 1703.
    You've got a new 'Paint 3D' app and there are a couple of new categories in Settings for example.
    But by and large it's just a way of moving Windows 10 forward.

    If you are using Windows 10 there's no point in not upgrading, as you'll eventually end up with an unsupported operating system.
    But, as you say, there's not a lot of point in diving in earlier than necessary either.

    For most people, just letting Windows Update do it's stuff is probably the best option.
    Unless you are having specific problems updating, or you have a lot of PCs to update, in which case using the Media Creation Tool is a good option.
    • debitcardmayhem
    • By debitcardmayhem 20th Apr 17, 12:39 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 12:39 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 12:39 PM
    There won't be any updates yet , its a new edition(aka new version of windows), well there is an update for flash....
    It didn't change my preferred browser to edge it's still FF.
    Classic shell is your choice not MS.
    You can now run windows commands from Linux for Windows (Bash) and 3D paint
    • DavidP24
    • By DavidP24 20th Apr 17, 1:44 PM
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    • #6
    • 20th Apr 17, 1:44 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 1:44 PM
    I upgraded one of my systems to creative edition, did take forever, but I would rather it did it when I wanted.

    I noticed Microsoft reset my privacy settings on each profile AGAIN, this has to be against data protection law.

    Microsoft also nags me to use it's apps when I launch them despite the fact that I have stated I prefer to use my preferred Browser, video player etc, this has to be against anti competition law.

    Most annoying thing was it put back all the apps I removed from Start Menu, again it has to be against competition laws as no other software vendor has this sort of access. If it carries on I will start nuking or hiding the folders this crap is stored in. We should have the right to REMOVE what we want, not just disable a tile.

    This is my only active Win10 system, all the rest are dual boot and default to Win7

    One thing I do like is the themes, probably not that new but does not seem to cripple the machine to use it.

    As others say, if you are going to use Win10 then it is going to force you to upgrade, there is no option to prevent updates, only delay them and not for long. Same way as there is no option to disable feedback to Microsoft.

    I feel a letter to the EU and FTC coming on!!
    Thanks, don't you just hate people with sigs !
    • Lambyr
    • By Lambyr 20th Apr 17, 1:59 PM
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    • #7
    • 20th Apr 17, 1:59 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 1:59 PM
    My PC running Win 10 Pro got the update the day it went live - don't know whether Pro users are getting it pushed earlier than Home users?

    Not noticed any real changes, other than it reset my registry tweaks to remove Shortcut arrows and increase the pixel distance before Windows registers an attempt to drag a file or folder.

    Oh, and I guess because it's added some stuff, some file associations - particular images and videos - needed reconfirming.
    She would always like to say,
    Why change the past when you can own this day?
    • wymondham
    • By wymondham 21st Apr 17, 8:19 AM
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    • #8
    • 21st Apr 17, 8:19 AM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 8:19 AM
    The Creators version is mainly a 'behind the scenes' update, ready for new bits to come (hence why its big when you cant really see much difference). I do object to pushing Edge as the default browser though, although the new version of Edge is quicker.
    • I have spoken
    • By I have spoken 21st Apr 17, 10:31 AM
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    I have spoken
    • #9
    • 21st Apr 17, 10:31 AM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 10:31 AM
    All the kewl kids are using Linux Mint
    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 21st Apr 17, 10:59 AM
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    AndyPix
    All the kewl kids are using Linux Mint
    Originally posted by I have spoken

    Yaaaawn ...
    Running with scissors since 1978
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 21st Apr 17, 11:03 AM
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    DoaM
    all the kewl kids are eating
    Originally posted by i have spoken
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    Dear diary, I'm here to stay
    • wongataa
    • By wongataa 21st Apr 17, 11:39 AM
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    wongataa
    I have just updated my laptop to Creators Edition and so far are extremely unimpressed
    I was running Professional (1703) I think) which I was happyish with
    But on updating - I see no improvement at all
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    It is essentially a service pack. Those don't tend to have new features, just little tweaks and mainly under the hood changes.
    I see several mistakes by MS - such as missing the ability to check what updates are already installed
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    That's never been possible in Windows 10 I think. All the updates are cumulative so you are always up to date if you install one.

    It was a large download - and took me the best part of an hour to get it up and running
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    Just like the previous major updates to Windows 10. You download the whole OS.

    Don't bother unless you are bored........
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    If you don't manually upgrade you will eventually auto upgrade as it hits Windows Update.
    • OGR
    • By OGR 21st Apr 17, 12:40 PM
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    There are some other things, for example.

    Powershell has replaced cmd on the quick access toolbar from the start button (cmd does still exist for now).
    Game mode has been added to give games more resources over the rest of the system and help boost performance.
    Night mode has been introduced to help reduce screen glare at night.
    VPN has been changed so that you can connect to a VPN quicker without having to go into a second menu.
    Control Panel has been removed from the quick access toolbar from start but does still exist.

    Microsoft have announced they are now on a 6 month upgrade cycle with new releases coming every September and March so expect 1709 later in the year. Free upgrades every 6 months, you can't complain really.

    Our only problem is that an agent we run at the office isn't yet supported by 1703 so we are having to wait a little while before we upgrade them all.
    Last edited by OGR; 21-04-2017 at 1:00 PM.
    • grumpycrab
    • By grumpycrab 21st Apr 17, 1:11 PM
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    grumpycrab
    ...Free upgrades every 6 months, you can't complain really.
    Originally posted by OGR
    Ok, so I'm sure this was tongue in cheek (wasn't it?)... but taking the view of your average home user...
    1. an upgrade can only be called an upgrade if it gives some benefit. Removing Control Panel from the quick access toolbar? Yep, great job.
    2. is rebuilding your computer twice a year progress?
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature because somebody complained that the information contained within it was too helpful.
    • I have spoken
    • By I have spoken 21st Apr 17, 1:13 PM
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    I have spoken
    The definitive Windows 10 Creators Update review

    Go to Settings>System>About, OS Build 15063.138 is the update to Creators
    Last edited by I have spoken; 21-04-2017 at 1:18 PM.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 21st Apr 17, 6:03 PM
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    Tarambor
    But no signs of any changes to the OS itself
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    Are you a programmer with the ability to look at code and see what has changed? No? Then you're likely to not notice very much.
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 21st Apr 17, 6:10 PM
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    RumRat
    There are some other things, for example.

    Powershell has replaced cmd on the quick access toolbar from the start button (cmd does still exist for now).
    .................................................. ....................
    Originally posted by OGR
    You can change it back to Cmd ...........
    Settings - Personalisation - Taskbar - Replace Command Prompt etc. - Toggle on or off.
    Pointless though as AFAIK it works the same if you want to run a cmd...
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    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 21st Apr 17, 6:13 PM
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    50Twuncle
    Are you a programmer with the ability to look at code and see what has changed? No? Then you're likely to not notice very much.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    I might be - you don't know. Do You ?
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 21st Apr 17, 6:43 PM
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    GDB2222
    I might be - you don't know. Do You ?
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    This is a bonkers argument as MS don't issue the code.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • DavidP24
    • By DavidP24 21st Apr 17, 8:14 PM
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    DavidP24
    All the kewl kids are using Linux Mint
    Originally posted by I have spoken
    Mint is a better brand than Ubuntu (Debian was better than that) so maybe this will be the year of Unix, after all they have been saying it for about 35 years!

    I am still waiting for the GUI clone of Win7, not just the superficial one, every dialog plus of course 100% compatibility.
    Thanks, don't you just hate people with sigs !
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