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    • Starlight123
    • By Starlight123 20th Apr 17, 10:00 AM
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    Where to move to diverse outskirts London?
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    • 20th Apr 17, 10:00 AM
    Where to move to diverse outskirts London? 20th Apr 17 at 10:00 AM
    Hiya, other half and I are looking to start a family, we are currently in SE London but looking to upsize and move out where we can get more for our money, still travel to city for our work, but also have diverse area to move into, being Asian/white couple we'd love to be in a nice mixed area where we can raise little uns. I'd love to be in forest hill but way too expensive. Any suggested areas would be great. Thanks
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    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 20th Apr 17, 10:13 AM
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    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E79849&sortTy pe=6&includeSSTC=true This is a very diverse area and not as expensive as some other areas around.
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 20th Apr 17, 10:17 AM
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    What's your budget? What are you looking for in a house?


    Jx
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    • By ReadingTim 20th Apr 17, 10:38 AM
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    Slough.

    If that doesn't appeal, then you really need to be more specific. Otherwise, you may as well be asking how long is a piece of string?
    • Starlight123
    • By Starlight123 20th Apr 17, 10:46 AM
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    We could afford upto £475k in area we are in but would prefer to move as area is bit downhill. Though we are lucky to have good transportation. What's the connections for slough. I think cross rail is due there too right so prices upping there?

    You in slough Tim? How is it.
    • bouicca21
    • By bouicca21 20th Apr 17, 10:57 AM
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    If you want to stay in south east London, Abbey Wood, Bexleyheath, bits of Croydon, Penge.

    That budget is tight for a house but would get you a flat in a nice area.

    Mind you it also depends on what you mean by diverse. I'm just a few miles from Catford and it is astonishing how much whiter it is - but it's not exclusively white and I doubt that a mixed race family would have any problems.
    • elverson
    • By elverson 20th Apr 17, 11:11 AM
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    I'd avoid Mottingham and Eltham.
    • Lams Mail
    • By Lams Mail 20th Apr 17, 11:22 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:22 AM
    Transport to work is often a big deal, so have a look at how far you can travel out. I would suggest simply visiting areas, have a look at local parks, pubs, restaurants, what kind of play groups are available for children etc. There may not be as many parks or play groups available but enough for you as a family to like. Will you be moving to where any of your family may already be living? That is also a big issue when it comes to starting a family as you'll need a support network around. That saying, when you start a family you'll create a whole new network too. Have a look at local nurseries and schools. You can ask to visit schools and they are often happy to show you around. As it's the summer term you may want to start doing that soon.

    Also go to the local libraries as they often have events going on so you can see what's out there. Also have a look at online magazines that show what's on in the areas for kids and yourselves.

    Good luck.
    • ndi149
    • By ndi149 20th Apr 17, 11:40 AM
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    I live a mile out from Bromley, with a five minute bus journey to Grove Park with great links into London. I would definitely say Bromley is a diverse area, being part of a mixed couple myself! If you can afford Bromley directly it's great, if you can't then a mile out, but not as far as Catford, your money should go further.
    • Starlight123
    • By Starlight123 20th Apr 17, 12:06 PM
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    Being in Croydon I tend to go Bromley fair bit, it is diverse but I'm not sure about it tbh. OH family are in Croydon so I guess support network but I'm finding Croydon can be somewhat a dive in parts and goodness knows when Westfield will happen(!) that was reason I bought my flat here.....along with good links. We did look for houses last year but perhaps I'm too fussy plus the schools don't seem that great. I just want our next move as joint purchase to be ideally last one for good 7-10yrs. I like Croydon at times but do feel when I go into town it's a deep dive!

    I'm not keen on bexleyheath/penge/abbey wood, feel quite rough to me. I did think Brighton or hove but that feels waaay too far. I quite like being a London chick and having it in my fingertips.
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 20th Apr 17, 12:26 PM
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    Would you go to NE London?


    Highams Park would be perfect.


    It's a mixed/blended area. Lovely community. Good school. Lovely open space, a lake, a small village type feel, yet London. Two lovely Indian restaurants (and some other decent ones), a nice Chinese, hairdressers, caf!s/pancake place in the old signal box at the level crossing, full size Tesco, oh and a local bloke walks a dalek around lol, that sort of thing.


    https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/epping-forest/visitor-information/wheretogoineppingforest/Pages/highams-park.aspx


    http://www.highamsparkforum.co.uk/index.html


    These houses would be my choices:


    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-59044873.html




    These two are on slightly busier roads (although not that busy at night):


    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-58847623.html


    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-59179009.html


    Jx
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    • ndi149
    • By ndi149 20th Apr 17, 2:09 PM
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    hazyjo, are you trying to convince a South Londoner to move to North London? Brave person! Lol

    Seriously Starlght, I can't recommend Bromley enough, I've lived here 10 years having been brought up in Brixton. I know what you mean about Croydon though, my OH and his family are from Forestdale/Selsdon, and whilst where they are is nice, Croydon needs a massive regeneration, which hopefully the Westfield will bring, but who knows how long that will take.
    • AlexMac
    • By AlexMac 20th Apr 17, 3:09 PM
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    As you already know inner SE London, surely it makes sense to do as Bouicca suggests and look out radially; just as people have traditionally done in London; East-enders moving out to the fringes of Essex; Lambethans to Thornton Heath and Surrey;

    And public transport improvements may not yet have impacted fully on these areas... as they are yet to come;
    http://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/info/200078/public_transport/666/crossrail

    I'd like to think that it was no onger the case that - to quote elverson, that it's necessary to avoid Eltham..
    I'd avoid Mottingham and Eltham.
    Originally posted by elverson
    as the historic context to Stephen Lawrence's murder by racist thugs in Eltham in 1993 has hopefully changed.

    (In the earlier 20th Century, there was a historic undeclared housing policy by Greenwich borough which had unexpected- but forseeable consequences; parent -child succession rights and an unspoken allocations policy which kept whole swathes of the better Council cottage estates white. Even the Town Hall staff were almost exclusively white as late as the 1980s; a big surprise when I moved there from Brent and Lambeth, my former employers!)

    So look out along the developing transport tentacles; but also walk, drive and cycle around potenetial areas; at all times of the day and week; as I did when moving to the area over 30 years ago
    • pretamang
    • By pretamang 20th Apr 17, 3:20 PM
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    Have a look at Mitcham.

    It's on the city thameslink and southern lines into London (zone 3) and you should get a 3 bedroom house for that.
    • Starlight123
    • By Starlight123 20th Apr 17, 3:29 PM
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    Hi, not really looking at east London again, was there nearly 10yrs before I moved to SE. Are there any parts of Surrey with good links I could consider that would be diverse? Not a fan of Mitcham
    • another casualty
    • By another casualty 20th Apr 17, 3:30 PM
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    Putney ? South west trains service is good . Next to barnes which is pricey. Having said that,even the rough parts of london are pricey.
    • another casualty
    • By another casualty 20th Apr 17, 3:34 PM
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    Have a look at Mitcham.

    It's on the city thameslink and southern lines into London (zone 3) and you should get a 3 bedroom house for that.
    Originally posted by pretamang
    Sorry to sound out of turn here pretamang, but southern and city thameslink are absolutely dreadful. Those are reasons to avoid any area. Southern are in the news everyday . I stand to be corrected
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 20th Apr 17, 3:38 PM
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    hazyjo, are you trying to convince a South Londoner to move to North London? Brave person! Lol
    Originally posted by ndi149

    Indeed I am But then I lived in two houses in Eltham (and Westcombe Park and Blackheath) and then to Highams Park and Chingford (and Brentwood inbetween).

    I'd like to think that it was no onger the case that - to quote elverson, that it's necessary to avoid Eltham..
    as the historic context to Stephen Lawrence's murder by racist thugs in Eltham in 1993 has hopefully changed.
    Originally posted by AlexMac
    I was in Eltham in the 90s and 2000s and it always seemed fairly mixed. I actually quite liked it there.


    OP, Highams Park is very different to places like Leyton, Forest Gate and the like - so I'd def not lump it in with the rougher sides of East London. It's the same postcode as Chingford and borders Woodford Green and is next to Buckhurst Hill, Loughton, etc.


    Jx
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    • bouicca21
    • By bouicca21 20th Apr 17, 3:58 PM
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    In defence of Eltham, I'd point out that the Stephen Lawrence murder was more about Kidbrooke. And I'm not at all sure that those convicted of the crime were actually representative ...

    But back on topic - if OP thinks places like Bexleyheath and Penge are rough, then it's a bit difficult to think of anywhere in or near London that will fit the price bracket and the social criteria.
    • elverson
    • By elverson 20th Apr 17, 4:15 PM
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    The BNP stood candidates in all the Eltham wards at the last council election in 2014.

    http://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/elections2014
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