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    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 19th Apr 17, 5:20 PM
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    Dental Mental
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    • 19th Apr 17, 5:20 PM
    Dental Mental 19th Apr 17 at 5:20 PM
    Feb 2016 Dentist took £250

    took an impression

    i got the 1 tooth with plate to glue to next tooth but because i have a strong gag reflex they didnt glue it in...

    October 2016 Birmingham dental hospital sedated me and glued false tooth in, repaired broken tooth next to it (these are UL1 and UL2)

    Xmas eve false tooth comes adrift

    month later the repaired tooth (UL2) disintergrates

    so i go to a NEW local dentist

    now comes the good bit

    for £6000 i can have implants (wow)

    for £1300 a 2 tooth bridge plus £800 sedation (2nd wow)

    i also need a root canal £250 private or £50 NHS (90% succes rate vs 60%)?

    Dentist does interest free loans................
    Instead of picking fault, pick up a life........ you might like it
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    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 20th Apr 17, 8:34 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:34 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 8:34 AM
    April 2017

    Bloke writes short sentences on Internet forum

    Not sure what he's saying

    Does he have a question?
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • justme111
    • By justme111 20th Apr 17, 9:16 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 9:16 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 9:16 AM
    I think I know what he is saying.
    NHS subsidised or free dentistry does not last.
    Dentistry which would have chance to last costs money.
    Which is about right on many instances.
    He probably wants to check how normal what happened is (pretty usual ) and vent his disappointment at abscence of top class universal comprehensive NHS dentistry which would have provided him with lasting fixed tooth replacement option (I am sure they offered him removable option as well, ie denture which he declined). I am afraid that is the way it is , NHS does not have money for all so prioritises A&E and cancer treatment over tooth implant so that he would avoid having removable denture.
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 20th Apr 17, 10:36 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 10:36 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 10:36 AM
    Ahh - didn't realise it was like 'Waiting for Godot'! We have to hunt for inner meaning

    My only concern was if it was the same dentist telling the patient he could do a better root filling privately than he could on the NHS. That would be naughty.
    Last edited by Toothsmith; 20-04-2017 at 10:39 AM.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 20th Apr 17, 11:04 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:04 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:04 AM
    I posted the timeline, I wondered why the success rate for a private root canal is 90% while NHS - at the same clinic and same dentist - is only 65%

    I wondered why the dentist is now ignoring messages knowing i wont be spending £6000 there..........

    Is this normal?
    Instead of picking fault, pick up a life........ you might like it
    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 20th Apr 17, 11:05 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:05 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:05 AM
    Dentist or Loan shark?
    Instead of picking fault, pick up a life........ you might like it
    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 20th Apr 17, 11:07 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:07 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:07 AM
    of course I could take the loan and go bankrupt! kerching

    (takes cover)
    Instead of picking fault, pick up a life........ you might like it
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 20th Apr 17, 11:46 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:46 AM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 11:46 AM
    A dentist can refer you to have a root treatment privately , even to another dentist in the same practice. However what they cannot do is offer to do the root treatment privately themselves and quote a better success rate.

    A specialist has a better success rate because they have operating microscopes and can use materials that are far too expensive to use on the NHS and have post graduate training in endodontics (root fillings).

    There are some warning bells sounding for you and if you don't trust the dentist then find another. However it is likely that the treatment options you want may very well be private. What is available on the NHS ,particularly as you may need sedation may be very limited ,eg very few NHS sedation clinics would offer root treatment , or advanced treatment such as crown and bridge work. Bearing in mind your gag problems you may find it difficult to tolerate the long and multiple appointments you would need for treatment .
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 21st Apr 17, 7:34 AM
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    • #9
    • 21st Apr 17, 7:34 AM
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    • 21st Apr 17, 7:34 AM
    What messages is the dentist ignoring?

    What are you asking them?
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
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