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    • miss_angie
    • By miss_angie 18th Apr 17, 11:19 PM
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    Civil enforcement ltd - county court
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:19 PM
    Civil enforcement ltd - county court 18th Apr 17 at 11:19 PM
    Hello...I have been to the Newbies section to find help but there is soo much information im getting all confused. Please help if you can or signpost me to the relevant link if possible..Anyway here goes.
    Back in June 2016 my sister and I together with our 3 children went to KFC Deptford for lunch, we noticed the new parking signs that had just been put up. We obtained verbal consent from their staff to park for longer as the kids took too long to finish lunch. About a month later we both received parking tickets from Civil Enforcement LTD. I felt that the tickets were both unfair as we had been given consent by their staff and we were paying customers. KFC responded saying that we needed to contact the franchisee who was of very little help. So I ignored the tickets. I have now received a Claim Form from COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE (Northampton). I am now scared of ruining my credit rating or worse a CCJ.. The claim is now for £326.41. There were no pictures and 'Im assuming they got my details from DVLA. I have no proof that their staff member gave us permission to park.I have to respond by the 20th April. Because of the Easter holiday the letter is dated 07/04 but only got to me on the 15th! PLEASE HELP ME
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 18th Apr 17, 11:56 PM
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    • 18th Apr 17, 11:56 PM
    acknowledge the claim ASAP by reading and following the advice in post #2 of that NEWBIES sticky thread

    then start reading recent threads on similar court claims and do the same as they have done , and draft your own defence by reading and plagiarising the defences in those other threads

    dont read anything more than 12 months old

    if you do the work people will help you, but you wont get a free lunch from volunteers doing it for free
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • miss_angie
    • By miss_angie 19th Apr 17, 9:23 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 9:23 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 9:23 AM
    Thank you Redx..Let me get started.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 19th Apr 17, 11:23 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 11:23 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 11:23 AM
    £326 seems wildly optimistic, have they given a breakdown?
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • The Slithy Tove
    • By The Slithy Tove 19th Apr 17, 11:29 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 11:29 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 11:29 AM
    £326 seems wildly optimistic, have they given a breakdown?
    Originally posted by The Deep
    I suspect this is a result of the usual merry-go-round CEL use. They issue an LBA some way back in the process (for a smaller amount). Then, instead of making a claim, they send it on another round of debt collectors, thus artificially inflating the claim (especially as they never pay the debt collectors if they are unsuccessful). Once the claim is suitably inflated, they issue another LBA for a much higher amount, which this time goes on to become a real claim.

    Such "inflation" must be challenged. This thread shows what CEL tend to do. Has the same sequence happened here? Maybe the OP could give a full breakdown of what was received when.
    • yotmon
    • By yotmon 19th Apr 17, 11:55 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 11:55 AM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 11:55 AM
    I totally agree that the figure has been artificially inflated, especially as it is only 10 months old.
    Perhaps they are hoping that you do not defend and it goes through as a default.
    • miss_angie
    • By miss_angie 19th Apr 17, 2:22 PM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 2:22 PM
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    • 19th Apr 17, 2:22 PM
    The breakdown on the claim form
    Amount Claimed - 251.41
    Court Fee - 25.00
    Legal Rep costs - 50.00
    Total - 326.41
    I have acknowledged the claim and am now in the process of writing the Part 18 letter.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 20th Apr 17, 6:20 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 6:20 PM
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    • 20th Apr 17, 6:20 PM
    For the record, if they were to take you to court and won a contested claim, the most they would be likely to receive is c@ £200. They cannot claim legal fees, court fees unless they have actually paid them, or DBA costs.

    If there is a solicitor involved you should complain to the SRA.

    You should
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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