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    • Mrs Imp
    • By Mrs Imp 13th Apr 17, 10:18 PM
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    Asbestos Insulation Board
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    • 13th Apr 17, 10:18 PM
    Asbestos Insulation Board 13th Apr 17 at 10:18 PM
    We've discovered AIB in our outbuildings. I think our asbestos removal estimate might climb significantly! Has anyone had AIB removed? How expensive was it? Did they park a decontamination unit outside your house? We're just wondering how much our neighbours are going to talk when we get it done!
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    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 14th Apr 17, 1:30 AM
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    I worked in a house that had a hot water tank sat on a asbestos board. It was sampled and confirmed asbestos, the customer had a company in to remove it and provide a clean air certificate and it cost £900. It was about 500mm x 1000mm max. I don't know how many quotes they had or if that is the going rate but it seem expensive to me. Hope that helps. It was the Only time I've come across it and had to disturb it so it had to go, why do you want it gone, if it's left alone and not in bad condition it won't do any harm, you can take certain asbestos down yourself, double bag it and take it to your local tip not sure which asbestos but probably worth getting sampled first.
    • Mrs Imp
    • By Mrs Imp 14th Apr 17, 12:48 PM
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    • 14th Apr 17, 12:48 PM
    There's a massive difference between asbestos cement board and asbestos insulation board, especially in terms of removal. Cement board is relatively easy, and we were quoted £600-700 to remove what we had if it was cement board. This is about what we expected. The company we chose wouldn't start until they'd sampled the board to confirm what it was. Sadly it's AIB.
    AIB requires a licensed contractor, and workers are only allowed to work on it for 1 hour a week. Special face masks are needed, along with a class H vacuum cleaner. The area may need covering with a wooden frame and plastic sheeting to prevent fibres escaping.
    Our AIB is on the outside of our outbuildings (which are falling down because of rotten wood) and is beginning to disintegrate. We need it gone asap before it gets worse.
    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 14th Apr 17, 1:17 PM
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    Oh dear that sounds expensive. Best of luck with it, hopefully someone here has had it done and can give a guess at expected costs.
    • brightontraveller
    • By brightontraveller 14th Apr 17, 3:52 PM
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    Not enough info waste of time guessing those who remove it most arenít in the haggle game either so irrelevant to an extent if itís a rip off or not if you want it removed ?

    BTW you can do so yourself yes fixing and size limitations etc not sure who told you otherwise but there wrong...
    • Mrs Imp
    • By Mrs Imp 14th Apr 17, 9:20 PM
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    BTW you can do so yourself yes fixing and size limitations etc not sure who told you otherwise but there wrong...
    Originally posted by brightontraveller
    All the regulations I have found regarding AIB suggest that as the work is likely to exceed two hours in duration over a seven day period (this time includes setting up, cleaning, clearing up), and the asbestos is friable, it falls under Control of Asbestos Regulations 2012 and a licence is needed.

    Could you point me in the direction of regulations that say I don't need a licence?

    Obviously no-one on here can see my AIB, but I'm after people's experience of how much their AIB cost and how involved the process was - eg did the contractors bring a decontamination unit.
    • brightontraveller
    • By brightontraveller 15th Apr 17, 12:29 AM
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    • 15th Apr 17, 12:29 AM
    All the regulations I have found regarding AIB suggest that as the work is likely to exceed two hours in duration over a seven day period (this time includes setting up, cleaning, clearing up), and the asbestos is friable, it falls under Control of Asbestos Regulations 2012 and a licence is needed.

    Could you point me in the direction of regulations that say I don't need a licence?

    Obviously no-one on here can see my AIB, but I'm after people's experience of how much their AIB cost and how involved the process was - eg did the contractors bring a decontamination unit.
    Originally posted by Mrs Imp
    Again omitting info the most important part ? plenty of types of asbestos, get test results and post them ditto, pics, dimensions, layout, access, location, size, condition etc you’ll get informed answers If not then pretty much waste of time ?


    With regard removal https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Asbestos+Insulation+Board&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=S1TxWKW0PKLHXvOTg_gN#q=asbestos+ins ulating+board+(aib)
    Last edited by brightontraveller; 15-04-2017 at 2:54 AM.
    • Annie1960
    • By Annie1960 15th Apr 17, 3:42 PM
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    Check with your local council as some seem to have this service (although mine did not).

    I had asbestos cement on the shed roof, and got a few quotes from removal companies, and they varied wildly.

    Don't accept the first quote you get, but get at least 3 and maybe even more.
    • Mrs Imp
    • By Mrs Imp 15th Apr 17, 10:29 PM
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    Again omitting info the most important part ? plenty of types of asbestos, get test results and post them
    As stated in a previous post, we've had it checked and it's AIB

    ditto, pics, dimensions, layout, access, location, size, condition etc youíll get informed answers If not then pretty much waste of time ?

    What does it matter what size it is and where it is? I've asked for people's experience of getting THEIR asbestos insulation board removed, not a description on how my AIB is going to be removed.

    With regard removal https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Asbestos+Insulation+Board&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=S1TxWKW0PKLHXvOTg_gN#q=asbestos+ins ulating+board+(aib)

    I've done a Google search (step 1 when finding asbestos), and everything comes up with the same answer - we need a licence to remove our asbestos. Please could you link to legislation that says we don't need a licence, rather than a link to a Google search.


    Originally posted by brightontraveller
    See replies in purple.
    • Alex1983
    • By Alex1983 15th Apr 17, 10:45 PM
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    Hse site says this

    Work on any type of asbestos can be dangerous. However, some short duration work (less than 1 hour for 1 person in a 7 day period, not to exceed 2 hours spent by all workers) for small or minor tasks on AIB can be carried out by non-licensed workers who are appropriately trained.

    Short duration work to remove AIB as part of demolition or major refurbishment would be notifiable.

    Any work lasting more than 1 hour for 1 person in a 7 day period, or more than 2 hours by all workers would require a licensed contractor.

    How much needs coming down, will it take more then 2hrs to remove
    • brightontraveller
    • By brightontraveller 15th Apr 17, 11:45 PM
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    See replies in purple.
    Originally posted by Mrs Imp
    You’ve not posted what asbestos is “AIB” if that’s all it says either BS or extremely dubious report, Type of asbestos amosite, chrysotile, crocidolite etc matter ditto domestic, commercial, size, fixing methods, location etc You don’t see the importance of the info s I’ll pass….. Just wasting both our time ...
    Last edited by brightontraveller; 16-04-2017 at 12:01 AM.
    • Mrs Imp
    • By Mrs Imp 16th Apr 17, 10:33 AM
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    Hse site says this

    Work on any type of asbestos can be dangerous. However, some short duration work (less than 1 hour for 1 person in a 7 day period, not to exceed 2 hours spent by all workers) for small or minor tasks on AIB can be carried out by non-licensed workers who are appropriately trained.

    Short duration work to remove AIB as part of demolition or major refurbishment would be notifiable.

    Any work lasting more than 1 hour for 1 person in a 7 day period, or more than 2 hours by all workers would require a licensed contractor.

    How much needs coming down, will it take more then 2hrs to remove
    Originally posted by Alex1983
    The work will take us more than 2 hours because of it's location and fixing. I've done asbestos awareness training at work, so I'm aware of HSE legislations, and I've done much Googling.

    brightontraveller - unless you've had experience of having AIB removed and you're willing to share, then you are indeed wasting time. I haven't asked for an opinion on my AIB. I know what it is, and I know that we need a licensed contractor.
    • Kernel Sanders
    • By Kernel Sanders 17th Apr 17, 9:13 PM
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    and the asbestos is friable,
    Originally posted by Mrs Imp
    I wouldn't recommend frying asbestos

    Was asbestos ever used in plaster, particularly when applied to laths in Edwardian times?
    • brightontraveller
    • By brightontraveller 18th Apr 17, 1:41 PM
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    I wouldn't recommend frying asbestos

    Was asbestos ever used in plaster, particularly when applied to laths in Edwardian times?
    Originally posted by Kernel Sanders
    Very very unlikely in lathe and plaster wall covering assuming original to era you ask? Really remote chance of anthrax (bovine hair used), arsenic, lead poisoning (worker comp act 1906 should have stopped it but cases went on until beginning ww2)
    The boom times in construction for asbestos were 50s to late 1980s sheet, board, insulation added to “plaster” etc but if unsure always get it tested...
    • brightontraveller
    • By brightontraveller 18th Apr 17, 2:38 PM
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    The work will take us more than 2 hours because of it's location and fixing. I've done asbestos awareness training at work, so I'm aware of HSE legislations, and I've done much Googling.

    brightontraveller - unless you've had experience of having AIB removed and you're willing to share, then you are indeed wasting time. I haven't asked for an opinion on my AIB. I know what it is, and I know that we need a licensed contractor.
    Originally posted by Mrs Imp
    I have not offered an opinion on your AIB? , With regard removal as you don't understand or see the importance of information no point,
    googling tends to work better if you know the answer to start with
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