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    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 12th Apr 17, 2:14 PM
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    Who owns a thread?
    • #1
    • 12th Apr 17, 2:14 PM
    Who owns a thread? 12th Apr 17 at 2:14 PM
    If a thread starter doesn't like the way it is going, can they just ask a board guide to completely remove it, no questions asked?

    And if the board guides don't have authorisation to do that task (which I thought was the situation) and it has to be passed to a member of the Forum Team, is it (almost) automatic if the thread starter requests it?

    I thought all threads were the 'property' of MSE (as the publisher).
    So isn't it up to them whether or not to delete a thread, and not the thread starter?

    I'm not talking about threads on unacceptable topics, by the way.
    They are clearly against the rules and have to go.

    I'm also not talking about threads started by mistake (e.g. similar thread already exists) and where there is still only the opening post on the thread.

    I'm talking about threads where the thread starter just doesn't like the fact that other posters are disagreeing with them.
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    • grumbler
    • By grumbler 12th Apr 17, 2:40 PM
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    • #2
    • 12th Apr 17, 2:40 PM
    • #2
    • 12th Apr 17, 2:40 PM
    I thought all threads were the 'property' of MSE (as the publisher).
    So isn't it up to them whether or not to delete a thread, and not the thread starter?
    Originally posted by Mandelbrot
    I think you are right and BGs have no powers to delete threads without MSE intervention.

    However, a thread can be deleted automatically if several user click the 'Spam' button in the OP.
    Last edited by grumbler; 12-04-2017 at 2:43 PM.
    We are born naked, wet and hungry...Then things get worse.

    .withdrawal, NOT withdrawel ..bear with me, NOT bare with me
    .definitely, NOT definately ......separate, NOT seperate
    should have, NOT should of
    .....guaranteed, NOT guarenteed
    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 12th Apr 17, 3:29 PM
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    • #3
    • 12th Apr 17, 3:29 PM
    • #3
    • 12th Apr 17, 3:29 PM
    However, a thread can be deleted automatically if several users click the 'Spam' button in the OP.
    Originally posted by grumbler
    Or a single user has enough AEs on tap?
    • grumbler
    • By grumbler 12th Apr 17, 3:38 PM
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    • #4
    • 12th Apr 17, 3:38 PM
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    • 12th Apr 17, 3:38 PM
    Yes, I wanted to add that this feature was open to abuse, but I wasn't sure why you asked this question.
    We are born naked, wet and hungry...Then things get worse.

    .withdrawal, NOT withdrawel ..bear with me, NOT bare with me
    .definitely, NOT definately ......separate, NOT seperate
    should have, NOT should of
    .....guaranteed, NOT guarenteed
    • Tipsntreats
    • By Tipsntreats 12th Apr 17, 8:09 PM
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    • #5
    • 12th Apr 17, 8:09 PM
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    • 12th Apr 17, 8:09 PM
    OK I started a thread at the Arms. On the thread I posted a pic with skeletons, that may have caused distress to someone, so I asked to have it taken down. I asked on the said thread, that I had asked to have it removed, just to stop any further posts. So it was removed.
    I understand that this may not explain your question. But Once a thread is started only the mods, I think can remove it.
    BTW I have NO OTHER usernames. I think one of me is quite enough.
    Money, money, money
    Must be funny
    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 12th Apr 17, 11:50 PM
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    • 12th Apr 17, 11:50 PM
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    • 12th Apr 17, 11:50 PM
    Nothing to do with your thread, Tips.
    Sorry I missed it though ... I like skellingtons.
    Were they real ones?

    As I indicated, it was about people who essentially throw a hissy fit and say something like "If I can't get people agreeing with me on my own thread, then I'm going to remove it".
    Rather like kids who when they are 'out' playing cricket, decide to go home taking the only bat with them.
    • Tipsntreats
    • By Tipsntreats 13th Apr 17, 11:59 AM
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    • 13th Apr 17, 11:59 AM
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    • 13th Apr 17, 11:59 AM
    Nothing to do with your thread, Tips.
    Sorry I missed it though ... I like skellingtons.
    Were they real ones?

    As I indicated, it was about people who essentially throw a hissy fit and say something like "If I can't get people agreeing with me on my own thread, then I'm going to remove it".
    Rather like kids who when they are 'out' playing cricket, decide to go home taking the only bat with them.
    Originally posted by Mandelbrot
    Yes I think know who you are referring to. It was very strange, even the title was changed!
    Then it was like Jekyll and Hyde at one time, when another user ........well you know.
    Bizarre to say the least. Perhaps some folks report themselves - food for thought.
    Money, money, money
    Must be funny
    • OldMotherTucker
    • By OldMotherTucker 17th Apr 17, 11:51 AM
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    • #8
    • 17th Apr 17, 11:51 AM
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    • 17th Apr 17, 11:51 AM
    Nothing to do with your thread, Tips.
    Sorry I missed it though ... I like skellingtons.
    Were they real ones?

    As I indicated, it was about people who essentially throw a hissy fit and say something like "If I can't get people agreeing with me on my own thread, then I'm going to remove it".
    Rather like kids who when they are 'out' playing cricket, decide to go home taking the only bat with them.
    Originally posted by Mandelbrot
    There was a long time MSE member with only a mere handful of posts to his name who joined that thread but when I looked up his user name in the Member's list, I can't find it . .

    Is it possible to edit an user name?
    Hell in a handcart either way.
    • grumbler
    • By grumbler 17th Apr 17, 11:57 AM
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    • 17th Apr 17, 11:57 AM
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    • 17th Apr 17, 11:57 AM
    Is it possible to edit an user name?
    Originally posted by OldMotherTucker
    No. Even the Towers do this reluctantly and under exceptional circumstances only.
    Regardless, this affects all posts of the user, even made in the past.
    We are born naked, wet and hungry...Then things get worse.

    .withdrawal, NOT withdrawel ..bear with me, NOT bare with me
    .definitely, NOT definately ......separate, NOT seperate
    should have, NOT should of
    .....guaranteed, NOT guarenteed
    • OldMotherTucker
    • By OldMotherTucker 17th Apr 17, 12:27 PM
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    No. Even the Towers do this reluctantly and under exceptional circumstances only.
    Regardless, this affects all posts of the user, even made in the past.
    Originally posted by grumbler
    Thanks - can't work out where he disappeared to!
    Hell in a handcart either way.
    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 18th Apr 17, 10:39 AM
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    MSE Towers,
    Why was my latest post deleted?

    It merely stated what anyone so minded to do so could have found out by using the various clickable options provided by the MSE forum system.

    If we are not now allowed to use the options that MSE themselves provide, then something is seriously wrong ...
    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 18th Apr 17, 1:03 PM
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    Hi Mandelbrot

    No-one owns a thread. Thread removal requests can be acted on entirely differently depending on why it's been requested.

    Sorry, I don't know why your last post was removed. You can email forumteam@ to ask.

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    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 18th Apr 17, 4:39 PM
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    Hi Mandelbrot

    No-one owns a thread. Thread removal requests can be acted on entirely differently depending on why it's been requested.
    Originally posted by MSE Andrea
    Thanks for the response.
    But it doesn't really answer the question posed.

    I understand that certain reasons 'given' for thread removal requests would be dealt with differently.

    For example, if the request says that they have started a duplicate thread by mistake or where they have posted on the wrong board.
    And the thread at that stage consists of just the initial post.
    In other words, basic 'tidying up' tasks are involved.
    If the thread had had other threads added by other people, I would expect 'merging' or 'moving' by a Board Guide.

    I can also understand there will be situations where a requester states that their thread has started a 'flame war' (can't remember what the latest terminology is) and that deletion of the whole thread should happen.
    However, isn't it MSE policy in such a case to just deal with offending posts - having checked of course that they ARE offensive in some way - and leave the rest of the thread alone?

    But they weren't the situation I was talking about.

    Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
    If someone starts a thread, and doesn't like it when the subsequent posters disagree (in a non-offensive way) with their viewpoint, is such a thread starter able to have the thread removed by simply requesting that of the Forum Team?
    I would have thought you should be able to answer that, in the case of the scenario I describe.
    For example, if you have ever turned down a request by a thread starter to have a thread removed in those circumstances, that would essentially answer my point.
    If the thread involved was on the Discussion Time board, would that make a difference? (i.e. making deletion of the thread more likely.)

    Sorry, I don't know why your last post was removed. You can email forumteam@ to ask.
    Are you no longer a member of the Forum Team?
    Last edited by Mandelbrot; 19-04-2017 at 9:02 AM.
    • MSE Andrea
    • By MSE Andrea 19th Apr 17, 10:27 AM
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    Hi

    If the thread were on Discussion Time and had nothing to do with saving money, yes, it would be more likely to be removed but not definitely.

    Ultimately every case is different and we can't give an answer that covers every situation.

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