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    • kmb500
    • By kmb500 11th Apr 17, 1:15 PM
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    struggling to sell my car
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    • 11th Apr 17, 1:15 PM
    struggling to sell my car 11th Apr 17 at 1:15 PM
    Hi, I am trying to sell my car and not having much luck. The car has some bad rust underneath which I have made clear in adverts, fair enough some people will be put off but I am selling it at significantly less what it would otherwise be worth.

    However I am really struggling to sell it for a half decent price. Its been on autotrader and ebay for 2 weeks, I have had 6000 views on my advert but am getting nowhere.
    Does anyone have any advice please on how to sell a car that has some problems .


    The car is a 2002 Mazda MX-5 if that is of any use.
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 15th Apr 17, 11:41 AM
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    I quite agree that it is probably worth more as individual parts and quite a few people have said that but to sell the parts they need to be accessible. The exhaust may be worth £200 second hand but for that money the buyer won't want to be taking it off the car himself.

    Breaking cars means you need the place to do it, somewhere to store the parts, some way of disposing of the rusty shell etc. etc.

    MX5 sills are a pretty specialist job,the rain from the convertible roof runs through the sills, drain holes get blocked and we can see the result in the OPs advert. The OP has already seen the results of the usual slap some outer sills on type repair and if that was done it will be a basket case when you start grinding the rot back. The rot has come through once, it wasn't dealt with properly and by now I expect the inner sills are completely shot.

    For somebody to save the car they need to be an enthusiast, an enthusiast will want a car that hasn't had a botch job done because they know it will cost more to put right. They also know that there are lots of virgins about that they can do a proper job on that will last for years.

    If it was a MK1 it might be worth saving, if it was a MK2.5 Sport it might be worth a bit more as a breaker. As it stands it's virtually scrap.
    Originally posted by Nodding Donkey
    You know all that, i know all that, however there will still be people out there who think its worth a punt at £500-£600.

    You're applying a very subjective view to the car and putting a value on it based on that. Joe public is a different kettle of fish and you need to think of who might buy it and what they might pay.

    Very simple example - the Clio 172 i sold last year. It was a relatively roughish one. Cat C, not a fantastic repair, but some really nice bits on it - coilovers, proper rare speedline turini alloys, SS exhaust, induction kit, strut braces, etc. Body was scruffy up close in places, trim missing, etc.

    Now i'd a few "experts" on Clio forums say it was £500 - £600 as it was rough, no evidence of timing belt / dephaser pulley being done, etc.

    I stuck it on at £1200. First bloke who rang was "fussy". I told him it wasnt the car for him, it would need a fair amount of work to get it to the standard he was talking about but he insisted on coming out. He took an hour and a half out of my life going over it with a fine tooth comb, pointing out all the "faults" i told him about on the phone, the fact that it "might" need a timing belt and dephaser pulley and concluded he would be doing me a favour giving me £800 for it. He then took it for a test drive, heard a gearbox mount clunking, concluded (wrongly) it was a fault in the gearbox and said he would need to be buying it for £600. I respectfully declined his kind and generous offer - even though he was probably right about its absolute value. It was "only" worth that if you were wanting to mint the car up. So he wasted an evening of his and my time finding faults with a car i knew - and had told him - wasnt right for him in the first place.

    Two days later two blokes came out to see it. Wanted it for track days, loved the fact it had all the mods already and reckoned they could sort out the gearbox mount themselves for a few £. They started at £1,000 and we settled on £1,080.

    The point being - subjectively it was a £500-600 car, but to the right man its worth more. Just like with the MX5. To some people its a £300 car that should probably be scrapped. To others - and theres enough of them out there - its a car for a bit of fun and maybe do the work later and they'll happily pay more.

    THATS a trait of a salesman by the way - knowing your market and knowing what someone will pay.
    Last edited by motorguy; 15-04-2017 at 11:46 AM.
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    • iolanthe07
    • By iolanthe07 15th Apr 17, 3:06 PM
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    The point being - subjectively it was a £500-600 car, but to the right man its worth more.

    Spot on.When I was young I would have loved a project like the OP's MX5. Indeed, at the age of 18 in 1964 I bought a 1937 MG TA for £80, rebuilt it (cars were much easier to work on in those days - it was like Meccano) and had a lot of fun in it. Insurance was £11.0s.0d a year (for a teenager!). I'm too old now, and would rather pay someone else to do the work. Perhaps kids don't have the time or the expertise these days, or just that cars are too complicated.
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    • FutureGirl
    • By FutureGirl 19th Apr 17, 4:58 PM
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    Don't think you'll get response from OP - He seems to have sold the vehicle and got himself a new car.
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 19th Apr 17, 5:04 PM
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    Don't think you'll get response from OP - He seems to have sold the vehicle and got himself a new car.
    Originally posted by FutureGirl
    What has he got to replace it?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • kmb500
    • By kmb500 19th Apr 17, 5:21 PM
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    I sold the car at the weekend for £600, in case anyone was wondering. The fact it has a few custom modifications is what sold it to the buyer.
    Thanks for the advice from everyone, especially motorguy.


    Don't think you'll get response from OP - He seems to have sold the vehicle and got himself a new car.
    Originally posted by FutureGirl
    I ordered the new car about a month ago. Only started selling the MX-5 a couple weeks after I had placed the order on the new car.



    What has he got to replace it?
    Originally posted by GDB2222
    Fiesta ST, it's coming next week and I can't wait hopefully it's almost as fun to drive but it's a lot more practical. and it is brand new so not going to go wrong.
    • treboeth
    • By treboeth 19th Apr 17, 5:38 PM
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    And it is brand new so not going to go wrong.

    Fingers crossed you are right

    Good price for the MX5 as well
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 19th Apr 17, 6:45 PM
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    Does the top come off a Fiesta ST?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • FutureGirl
    • By FutureGirl 19th Apr 17, 7:39 PM
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    Fiesta ST, it's coming next week and I can't wait hopefully it's almost as fun to drive but it's a lot more practical. and it is brand new so not going to go wrong.
    Originally posted by kmb500
    Just don't forget to tell your insurers about any mods you put on it, cos they will find out
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 19th Apr 17, 8:33 PM
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    And it is brand new so not going to go wrong.
    Originally posted by treboeth
    There is a reason new cars come with a manufacturers warranty.
    • kmb500
    • By kmb500 19th Apr 17, 9:37 PM
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    Does the top come off a Fiesta ST?
    Originally posted by GDB2222
    I can live without the soft-top. I mostly drove with the roof up, like a coupe, and preferred it inside that way. Yeah it's nice on a warm sunny day, and other times it is still nice to get fresh air, but it's something I can live without.
    • silverwhistle
    • By silverwhistle 19th Apr 17, 11:39 PM
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    Does the top come off a Fiesta ST?
    Originally posted by GDB2222
    Yeah, if you roll it...
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 20th Apr 17, 7:18 PM
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    I can live without the soft-top. I mostly drove with the roof up, like a coupe, and preferred it inside that way. Yeah it's nice on a warm sunny day, and other times it is still nice to get fresh air, but it's something I can live without.
    Originally posted by kmb500
    Yes, convertibles are nice to do at times and move on to something else.

    I've had maybe 5 or 6 over the years, and probably will have another at some point

    Great cars those Fiesta STs.
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    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 21st Apr 17, 10:38 AM
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    Yes, convertibles are nice to do at times and move on to something else.

    I've had maybe 5 or 6 over the years, and probably will have another at some point

    Great cars those Fiesta STs.
    Originally posted by motorguy

    Nearly all my cars have been convertibles. I love the light and air. I'd rather tootle along, enjoying the journey with the roof down, than rush around in a much faster saloon.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • kmb500
    • By kmb500 21st Apr 17, 11:35 AM
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    Nearly all my cars have been convertibles. I love the light and air. I'd rather tootle along, enjoying the journey with the roof down, than rush around in a much faster saloon.
    Originally posted by GDB2222
    Oh it's lovely, no doubt. Most of my driving is in the dark so I don't get the best use out of it. 90% of the time I have the roof up, and it makes it more comfortable and I can listen to music better.


    I went for an amazing drive a couple weeks ago, and thought yeah I'm gonna miss it. But having a fixed roof isn't the end of the world, and when I drive other cars I don't feel like I miss the open air.
    Last edited by kmb500; 21-04-2017 at 11:38 AM.
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