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    • Jo4
    • By Jo4 9th Apr 17, 6:29 PM
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    Recommendations for replacement of HP SR2125UK
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    • 9th Apr 17, 6:29 PM
    Recommendations for replacement of HP SR2125UK 9th Apr 17 at 6:29 PM
    Can anyone recommend a suitable desktop to replace a HP SR2125UK? The budget is 400 maximum.

    The current HP SR2125UK is slow and states that there is a program running in the background although I do no know what it is or how to find out. I am sure there is unnecessary programs on it which could be removed if I knew how.

    The desktop is for a 70th birthday present and will be used for word processing, surfing the web and storing photos.

    How do you copy all the information / documents which are on the current computer to the new one?

    Finally, how do you then delete the information on the current desktop and where can you dispose of it?
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    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 12:03 AM
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    So this is not attacking, you are not referring to me?
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    May I suggest that instead of making it all about you, why not post a good deal for the OP?
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 8:30 AM
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    Acer K242HYL 23.8" IPS LED Monitor 89.98

    Argos has the Lenovo equivalent here; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Celeron-8GB-2TB-1-6GHz-Windows-10-Desktop-Tower-Black-Argos-/361527040525 for 180.
    They are described as Manufacturer refurbished, but since they have already sold 555 of them, I guess they'll be in 'as new' condition.



    It's better than the HP in that the processor is a fair bit better, but I'm certainly not recommending it. But if it suits.

    The PC here(Zoostorm Delta Light Intel Core i3-6100 Desktop PC, 128GB SSD, 8GB, Win 10, DVD-RW) and the monitor above are just about within budget and offer a far superior specification,
    You can add a Mini USB Wifi Adapter for as little as 2.38 to add wireless capability or 6.99 for a Dual Band 802.11ac wireless adapter

    Zoostorm have a Delta Micro version for 10 less, if space is at a serious premium. But it has no DVD drive and probably limited expandability.

    Delta Micro



    Delta Light

    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 8:40 AM
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    Example of 300 PC;

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoostorm-i3-6100-Dual-Core-Desktop-PC-128GB-SSD-8GB-Win-10-DVD-RW-/262934178264?hash=item3d381929d8





    CPU is RUBBISH. I don't understand why someone would suggest that is is acceptable at that price.
    Originally posted by NiftyDigits
    For comparison, the benchmark of the CPU in the nine year old Compaq Presario SR2125UK



    As you can see, the Pentium N3050 is hardly a great leap forward in terms of processing power.
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 10:21 AM
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    As an aside, the ten year old(released December 2006) Compaq Presario SR2125UK still has some upgrade-ability and therefore some life in it, for not too much of a spend.

    Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700 for less than 10 via eBay.



    2 GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300 DESKTOP RAM 3.



    So 16 for a CPU and 4 GB RAM upgrade that can run any Windows OS smoothly and easily. You could even put an SSD in there for optimal performance.


    Even if you are afraid to attempt a CPU upgrade(no reason to be), the RAM upgrade for 3 to 6(if still on 1GB) and a clean install of Windows would improve things considerably. Further to that, swapping the mechanical drive with a solid state drive costing 45 would transform the performance.
    • johndough
    • By johndough 17th Apr 17, 12:36 PM
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    Hi

    Most PC's that you can buy will be adequate for the kind of usage you mentioned.

    If you break the problem down into smaller chunks, then it may look a little different.

    EG: Consider a shop that would add in the old HDD to the new one to give a new storage area. The original spec was a 160 gig, so it may well be that 2000 gig is an overkill, and some of the budget could be spent on one with an SSD.

    The monitor can be sourced at the same time, or separately etc etc.

    So I think that a visit to a local shop or two and a national chain and ask about the type of warranty it would come with. This may give a sense of what/who you will dealing with.

    If you then get a specification from someone you feel comfortable with, post it here and get some reviews.
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 3:07 PM
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    Hi

    Most PC's that you can buy will be adequate for the kind of usage you mentioned.

    If you break the problem down into smaller chunks, then it may look a little different.

    EG: Consider a shop that would add in the old HDD to the new one to give a new storage area. The original spec was a 160 gig, so it may well be that 2000 gig is an overkill, and some of the budget could be spent on one with an SSD.

    The monitor can be sourced at the same time, or separately etc etc.

    So I think that a visit to a local shop or two and a national chain and ask about the type of warranty it would come with. This may give a sense of what/who you will dealing with.

    If you then get a specification from someone you feel comfortable with, post it here and get some reviews.
    Originally posted by johndough
    Even the original PC with the 60 worth of upgrades would do it. The main issues being whether the OP has the confidence/time to carry out the upgrades and when other components might begin to fail on a ten year old PC. They may last for years, but who knows?
    Either way, the SSD can be moved to another machine when the time comes, so to upgrade the current machine is an inexpensive solution, as all the old data will be intact on the mechanical drive and Windows can be installed afresh on the SSD.

    Unlikely they will get a better monitor for the price indicated in my post. Leaving 260 to 310 in the budget for the PC.
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 17th Apr 17, 6:05 PM
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    That one had been 349 and then it was reduced and the one I provided the link for became available for the same price. I thought when it had twice the RAM and hard drive that it was a good buy.

    Obviously I don't know though or I wouldn't be asking for help and getting it wrong.
    Originally posted by Jo4
    205 at amazon:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Slimline-411-a000na-Desktop-Processor/dp/B01KM4ZAFI

    - and that looks ideal for the uses mentioned: he does not need a gaming machine. You are getting all kinds of recommendations, which are not heeding what is actually needed: a basic PC.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • were
    • By were 17th Apr 17, 6:08 PM
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    Guys, be realistic. Think Jo4 just wants something that works out of the box, rather than install or swap SSD hard disks, or source a compatible cpu upgrade of ebay

    What about a good second laptop with a year warranty for possibly around 200. The cpu is faster than the HP Slimline 411-a000na Desktop PC, not as good as the i3-6100, but not that far from it. Yes, it is not a desktop.
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Windows-10-Laptop-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-Ram-250GB-Warranty-/232194704148?
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 6:58 PM
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    Guys, be realistic. Think Jo4 just wants something that works out of the box, rather than install or swap SSD hard disks, or source a compatible cpu upgrade of ebay

    What about a good second laptop with a year warranty for possibly around 200. The cpu is faster than the HP Slimline 411-a000na Desktop PC, not as good as the i3-6100, but not that far from it. Yes, it is not a desktop.
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Windows-10-Laptop-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-Ram-250GB-Warranty-/232194704148?
    Originally posted by were
    Realistic?? Is this just a joke that fell flat?

    You remonstrate with us for suggesting that there is also a possibility of upgrading the current machine, (whether for the seventy year old or simply to pass it on to someone else who it suits), but then you come up with the absolutely ludicrous suggestion of purchasing a five year old laptop with a screen a good twenty five centimetres in diameter less than the OP's initial suggestion.

    I'm sure the seventy year old would relish the idea of peering at a relatively small low resolution screen.....

    Seriously, one of the strangest suggestions I have seen here in a while....and there have been a few.
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 7:15 PM
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    205 at amazon:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Slimline-411-a000na-Desktop-Processor/dp/B01KM4ZAFI

    - and that looks ideal for the uses mentioned: he does not need a gaming machine. You are getting all kinds of recommendations, which are not heeding what is actually needed: a basic PC.
    Originally posted by Robisere
    ??

    Who is not taking heed? Methinks it is you.

    349 included a 24" monitor and a different model of PC with 8GB of RAM and 2TB HDD. In addition, the OP asked us about that particular bundle and set the budget, It wasn't one we suggested to her.... the CPU is crud.
    I am simply suggesting better machines for within the same budget.

    Also, perhaps you didn't notice that I posted Lenovo IdeaCentre 300S Celeron N3150 8GB 2TB Windows 10 Desktop Tower at 179.99

    Don't just rush in like a bull in a china shop thinking that you are putting the world to rights. We are all doing our best to help the OP.
    • were
    • By were 17th Apr 17, 7:43 PM
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    Realistic?? Is this just a joke that fell flat?

    You remonstrate with us for suggesting that there is also a possibility of upgrading the current machine, (whether for the seventy year old or simply to pass it on to someone else who it suits),


    but then you come up with the absolutely ludicrous suggestion of purchasing a five year old laptop with a screen a good twenty five centimetres in diameter less than the OP's initial suggestion.
    Originally posted by NiftyDigits
    Ha ha, no I did not suggest upgrading anything, but I understand now what you mean about glasses, small print and age, also not being hard to follow the thread in a post, as one seems get confused as one get older?

    I'm sure the seventy year old would relish the idea of peering at a relatively small low resolution screen.....

    Seriously, one of the strangest suggestions I have seen here in a while....and there have been a few.
    Originally posted by NiftyDigits
    They have an existing screen to use - if they wish, and 100 left over to upgrade to a new screen. Strange suggestion?... you need to get out more!

    There are more balls on a eunuch than that N3150 cpu you are inferring to the user.
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 17th Apr 17, 7:50 PM
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    Ha ha, no I did not suggest upgrading anything, but I understand now what you mean about glasses, small print and age, also not being hard to follow the thread in a post, as one seems get confused as one get older?



    They have an existing screen to use - if they wish, and 100 left over to upgrade to a new screen. Strange suggestion?... you need to get out more!

    There are more balls on a eunuch than that N3150 cpu you are inferring to the user.
    Originally posted by were
    Perhaps you also missed that I did not recommend the N3150, but suggested that at least it is better than the N3050 they originally looked at.
    It is they who chose a 24" monitor, so I have tailored all of my replies to their basic criteria, but with an emphasis on getting the best for their budget.
    The reason for the Zoostorm recommendation is because it already has a solid state drive fitted. Otherwise I would recommend something cheaper if it already had an SSD fitted.

    But at least the Lenovo has a bit more to offer than the HP. Quad Core processor and Bluetooth.

    Remember that this is a present. So old second equipment won't do.
    • were
    • By were 18th Apr 17, 12:19 AM
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    NiftyDigits, you are very good with bios upgrades etc, do you perhaps have something newer than this bios within your grasp from your secret software stash, as I cant get anything newer from the Samsung site?

    Motherboard Model: Samsung NP350E7C-S02UK
    BIOS Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
    BIOS Version: P09ABE
    BIOS Release Date: 07/04/2013

    Thanks
    Last edited by were; 18-04-2017 at 12:27 AM.
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 18th Apr 17, 12:26 AM
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    NiftyDigits, you are very good with bios upgrades etc, do you perhaps have something newer than this bios within your grasp, as I can get anything newer of the Samsung site?

    Motherboard Model: Samsung NP350E7C-S02UK
    BIOS Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
    BIOS Version: P09ABE
    BIOS Release Date: 07/04/2013

    Thanks
    Originally posted by were
    Why do you need a BIOS update?
    • were
    • By were 18th Apr 17, 12:36 AM
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    it came with win 7, after putting on 10 the eventvwr had some unusual entries to do with overheating or bios - according to google, chip temps look to be in their 50's. besides, half the settings are not there like turning off wifi and bluetooth

    Event id 37 "The speed of processor 7 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 6695 seconds since the last report."
    Last edited by were; 18-04-2017 at 12:50 AM.
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 18th Apr 17, 2:17 AM
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    it came with win 7, after putting on 10 the eventvwr had some unusual entries to do with overheating or bios - according to google, chip temps look to be in their 50's. besides, half the settings are not there like turning off wifi and bluetooth

    Event id 37 "The speed of processor 7 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced performance state for 6695 seconds since the last report."
    Originally posted by were
    Have you upped your minimum processor state in Power Options?

    • were
    • By were 18th Apr 17, 12:46 PM
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    Thank you. No I have not tried that, and because it is a minimum setting would have thought it would have auto adjusted? The maximum though is already on 100. I'll set minimum to 100% too and see how it goes.
    • NiftyDigits
    • By NiftyDigits 18th Apr 17, 1:45 PM
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    Thank you. No I have not tried that, and because it is a minimum setting would have thought it would have auto adjusted? The maximum though is already on 100. I'll set minimum to 100% too and see how it goes.
    Originally posted by were
    50% would be a good start, otherwise it may impact on battery life
    • Jo4
    • By Jo4 20th Apr 17, 2:08 AM
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    As an aside, the ten year old(released December 2006) Compaq Presario SR2125UK still has some upgrade-ability and therefore some life in it, for not too much of a spend.

    Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6700 for less than 10 via eBay.



    2 GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300 DESKTOP RAM 3.



    So 16 for a CPU and 4 GB RAM upgrade that can run any Windows OS smoothly and easily. You could even put an SSD in there for optimal performance.


    Even if you are afraid to attempt a CPU upgrade(no reason to be), the RAM upgrade for 3 to 6(if still on 1GB) and a clean install of Windows would improve things considerably. Further to that, swapping the mechanical drive with a solid state drive costing 45 would transform the performance.
    Originally posted by NiftyDigits
    The RAM was upgraded from 1GB to 2GB but the computer is really slow. The fan is constantly on for some reason. Don't know if it has been cleaned since the extra RAM was put in which was in the last 2 years - which obviously would not be helping.
    • Jo4
    • By Jo4 20th Apr 17, 3:40 AM
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    Recap of requirements
    Here is a brief recap of what is needed:-

    -This is a 70th birthday present therefore a brand new computer in a box is required.

    -A good size of a screen - the persons sight is deteriorating.

    -The person likes to play music on the computer and at the same time they want a word processing document open so they can have the words of the song open so they can sing along - a little like karaoke.

    -They will want to be able to plug in their external floppy disk drive because some of their music toys still uses floppy disk drives.

    -As you can tell from the mention of floppy disk drives the person does not like change - they do not like anything other than a desktop - no laptops, tablets, etc.

    -The budget is a maximum of 400 but preferably 350.

    -70th birthday is next week so it needs to be ordered now to have it here in time.

    -The computer needs to be able to work straight out of the box without anything being added to the inside of it.

    -I haven't much of a clue about computers, obviously, I know how to switch one on and not much else but it will be me who is responsible for getting the new computer up and running and when anything goes wrong with it I will be the one called upon so I will be back here torturing everyone again - although unintentional.

    -The computer has to be delivered to Northern Ireland or be able to be collected in Northern Ireland, which may take longer to receive it.

    I hope it is clear what I need without annoying or insulting anyone. I really need to get it ordered.
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