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    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 3rd Apr 17, 10:49 AM
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    The Bristol Grammar Vigilante strikes!
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    • 3rd Apr 17, 10:49 AM
    The Bristol Grammar Vigilante strikes! 3rd Apr 17 at 10:49 AM
    There's guy in Bristol who goes around correcting misplaced apostrophes and other errors on shop fronts and signs.

    HURRAY!

    My hero! .


    Meet the 'Grammar Vigilante' of Bristol

    For years, it has been rumoured that somebody has been going out late at night, correcting bad punctuation on Bristol shop fronts.
    The self-proclaimed "grammar vigilante" goes out undercover in the dead of night correcting street-signs and shop-fronts where the apostrophes are in the wrong place.

    Jon Kay meets grammar's answer to Banksy and reveals the extent of his one man mission to improve standards.

    Listen to more in The 'Apostrophiser', Radio 4, 20:00 BST, Monday 3 April, or afterwards on the BBC iPlayer.
    (I just lurve spiders! )
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    • Spidernick
    • By Spidernick 17th Apr 17, 9:29 AM
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    I think he might of got a warning by the forum police...been there
    Originally posted by prosaver
    You'll get one from the grammar police!
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    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 17th Apr 17, 9:34 AM
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    The verb: to of

    I of
    You of
    He/she/it ofs
    We of
    You (pl) of
    They of


    Surely you know the verb 'to of'?


    It was decreed to be so by Ofwatch!
    ofwatch.org.uk
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    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 17th Apr 17, 11:41 AM
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    Fruitcake
    And yet, Sainsbury's is still Sainsbury's. Good for them.

    And Marks and Spencer is just Marks and Spencer.
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    But one of their original shops bore the sign Marks & Spencers.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
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    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 17th Apr 17, 12:05 PM
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    Pyxis
    But one of their original shops bore the sign Marks & Spencers.

    Originally posted by Fruitcake
    But one of their original shops bore the sign Marks & Spencers.
    Originally posted by Fruitcake
    But one of their original shops bore the sign Marks & Spencers.

    Originally posted by Fruitcake
    I HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME!



    They obviously saw the error of their ways!
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    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 17th Apr 17, 12:19 PM
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    Fruitcake
    I have no, no, no, idea what happened there. Perhaps Jim Trott infected my lappy.

    Yer tiz, and not an apostrophe in sight.

    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 17th Apr 17, 12:23 PM
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    Pyxis
    I have no, no, no, idea what happened there. Perhaps Jim Trott infected my lappy.

    Yer tiz, and not an apostrophe in sight.

    Originally posted by Fruitcake

    At least they are doing it correctly now!







    As are.............





    As they did originally, too........

    Last edited by Pyxis; 17-04-2017 at 12:30 PM.
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    • Cloth of Gold
    • By Cloth of Gold 17th Apr 17, 10:21 PM
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    Cloth of Gold
    The verb: to of

    I of
    You of
    He/she/it ofs
    We of
    You (pl) of
    They of


    Surely you know the verb 'to of'?


    It was decreed to be so by Ofwatch!
    ofwatch.org.uk
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    This one truly gets my goat. I honestly think the word 'have' is in danger of extinction.
    • ThinkingOutLoud
    • By ThinkingOutLoud 17th Apr 17, 11:07 PM
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    At least they are doing it correctly now!
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    Ah, but did you notice how the multiple Spencers in that old sign from fruitcake have been reduced to just one, while the Marks remain as plural in the later signage.
    I am just thinking out loud - nothing I say should be relied upon!
    I do however reserve the right to be correct by accident.
    • ThinkingOutLoud
    • By ThinkingOutLoud 17th Apr 17, 11:20 PM
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    This one truly gets my goat. I honestly think the word 'have' is in danger of extinction.
    Originally posted by Cloth of Gold
    Ah, but aside the lack of etymological certainty as to what your goat-laden expression means, do you mean "have" as in the verb to have or as in the mosaic form?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave#/media/File:HAVE_-_House_in_Pompeii.jpg
    I am just thinking out loud - nothing I say should be relied upon!
    I do however reserve the right to be correct by accident.
    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 18th Apr 17, 2:03 AM
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    Mandelbrot
    How to deal with an annoying apostrophe zealot!

    Originally posted by Pyxis
    I don't like people mixing capital letters and lower case ones, in non-regular ways.
    Originally posted by Mandelbrot
    Do you have any examples?
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    I was really referring to the cartoon pics you posted immediately before my post, and in particular the word "CRiTiC" depicted therein.
    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 18th Apr 17, 2:18 AM
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    Mandelbrot
    Surely you know the verb 'to of'?


    It was decreed to be so by Ofwatch!
    ofwatch.org.uk
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    Actually, it annoys mildly irritates me that we are supposed to pronounce names like 'Ofwat' as though it is spelled 'Offwat'. Similarly for (so-called) regulators like OfCom, OfGEM, etc.

    I suppose the 'Of' part is supposed to be an abbreviation of "Office", so "Off" would be just as valid as "Of" in that respect.

    ETA: It looks like Ofwat aren't even sure themselves of the appropriate way of writing their 'name'. Is it Ofwat, ofwat, or OFWAT?
    http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/about-us/
    Last edited by Mandelbrot; 18-04-2017 at 2:22 AM.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 18th Apr 17, 7:21 AM
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    Actually, it annoys mildly irritates me that we are supposed to pronounce names like 'Ofwat' as though it is spelled 'Offwat'. Similarly for (so-called) regulators like OfCom, OfGEM, etc.

    I suppose the 'Of' part is supposed to be an abbreviation of "Office", so "Off" would be just as valid as "Of" in that respect.

    ETA: It looks like Ofwat aren't even sure themselves of the appropriate way of writing their 'name'. Is it Ofwat, ofwat, or OFWAT?
    http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/about-us/
    Originally posted by Mandelbrot
    Funnily enough, that Of----pronunciation surprised me when I went to type it, so much so, that I actually googled it to check how it was spelt!
    Yes, it should really be Offwat etc.


    I hadn't noticed the mix of letter cases!
    I think some quirky fonts actually do that as a matter of course.

    Do you know, when I'm doing crosswords, ones that aren't going to be sent off in the hope of winning something, I usually do mix letter cases. This is just because some letters can be confusing when in the boxes, to me anyway, and sometimes the boxes are very small, so one case or the other might be the better!

    I'm the only one who's going to be seeing them, though!
    If I'm sending it off, they are all in capitals.
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    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 18th Apr 17, 11:02 AM
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    Mandelbrot
    Funnily enough, that Of----pronunciation surprised me when I went to type it, so much so, that I actually googled it to check how it was spelt!
    Yes, it should really be Offwat etc.
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    Perhaps I should start an online petition ...
    No, perhaps not.


    I hadn't noticed the mix of letter cases!
    I think some quirky fonts actually do that as a matter of course.
    Maybe.
    But surely the stuff in the cartoon bubble was actually written/drawn in by the cartoonist.
    Why did he/she do the letter 'i' in that way?
    Was he/she making a particular point?
    Perhaps referencing the number of people who use 'i' instead of 'I' (when referring to the singular person, the self) in their social media writings - as we see on this forum from time to time.
    Or am I overthinking it waaaaay too much ...

    Do you know, when I'm doing crosswords, ones that aren't going to be sent off in the hope of winning something, I usually do mix letter cases. This is just because some letters can be confusing when in the boxes, to me anyway, and sometimes the boxes are very small, so one case or the other might be the better!

    I'm the only one who's going to be seeing them, though!
    If I'm sending it off, they are all in capitals.
    I always fill in crossword puzzles using capital letters.
    Always have done.
    Never really considered why until just now.
    Nothing to do with 'sending them off' - I never do that.
    I assume I watched an adult fill one in that way when I was very young, and just copied their way of doing it.
    • ThinkingOutLoud
    • By ThinkingOutLoud 19th Apr 17, 8:42 PM
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    The genitive is dying out in English, but people still ought to be taught at school when to use punctuation and apostrophes. I gather they just copy and paste from the internet when writing essays now.
    Originally posted by tensandunits
    Maybe but copy and paste means you are typing - not writing
    But, I believe the longhand approach to plagiarism was alive and popular back in the day.
    I am just thinking out loud - nothing I say should be relied upon!
    I do however reserve the right to be correct by accident.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 19th Apr 17, 8:49 PM
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    Ah, but did you notice how the multiple Spencers in that old sign from fruitcake have been reduced to just one, while the Marks remain as plural in the later signage.
    Originally posted by ThinkingOutLoud
    Nah! Only one Marks, as in anglicised version of Marx.
    As in Nigel Havers.
    Or Carruthers.
    Or Fellows.
    Et sim.
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    • ThinkingOutLoud
    • By ThinkingOutLoud 19th Apr 17, 10:01 PM
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    Nah! Only one Marks, as in anglicised version of Marx.
    As in Nigel Havers.
    Or Carruthers.
    Or Fellows.
    Et sim.
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    Ah but here were two - Michael Marks and then his son Simon (creator of the St Michael branding). I agree nevertheless -the name simply has an s on the end (you cannot be flippant here with correction - I am learning).
    I am just thinking out loud - nothing I say should be relied upon!
    I do however reserve the right to be correct by accident.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 20th Apr 17, 5:49 AM
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    Ah but here were two - Michael Marks and then his son Simon (creator of the St Michael branding). .
    Originally posted by ThinkingOutLoud
    Perhaps it should have been Markses and Spencer, then?
    (Assuming they were concurrent and not consecutive! )
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    • ThinkingOutLoud
    • By ThinkingOutLoud 20th Apr 17, 7:38 AM
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    Perhaps it should have been Markses and Spencer, then?
    (Assuming they were concurrent and not consecutive! )
    Originally posted by Pyxis
    Somehow ugly though.

    Actually, the unexplained thing is why it started as Spencers and then became Spencer. I reckon they thought it read / sounded / looked more balanced with both ending in s.

    As it is a brand name, I guess they don't have to follow our rules - Krispy Kreme, Toys R Us and so on. But, that doesn't mean we have to like it.
    I am just thinking out loud - nothing I say should be relied upon!
    I do however reserve the right to be correct by accident.
    • Mandelbrot
    • By Mandelbrot 20th Apr 17, 9:03 AM
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    Somehow ugly though.

    Actually, the unexplained thing is why it started as Spencers and then became Spencer. I reckon they thought it read / sounded / looked more balanced with both ending in s.

    As it is a brand name, I guess they don't have to follow our rules - Krispy Kreme, Toys R Us and so on. But, that doesn't mean we have to like it.
    Originally posted by ThinkingOutLoud
    Don't many Marks & Spencer shops now go with just "M & S" (or is it "M&S") as the logo on the outside of their buildings?
    • Cloth of Gold
    • By Cloth of Gold 20th Apr 17, 10:11 PM
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    Don't many Marks & Spencer shops now go with just "M & S" (or is it "M&S") as the logo on the outside of their buildings?
    Originally posted by Mandelbrot
    Yes, and underneath it says, 'Established in 1876' (or whatever the date is). I've always thought that that wasn't likely to make it appeal to the 'youth' market, which seems to be the Holy Grail for retailers and advertisers these days.
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