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    • marcarm
    • By marcarm 20th Mar 17, 12:35 PM
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    Mondeo throttle lag
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    • 20th Mar 17, 12:35 PM
    Mondeo throttle lag 20th Mar 17 at 12:35 PM
    Mk4 mondeo tdci.

    When accelerating if you squeeze the accelerator too hard the car just revs for half a second or so before reacting and then going faster. It normally happens in 2nd and 3rd. Googling brings up some other issues with 'accelerator lag' , it's as if it's in neutral before finding the gear.

    This is the first diesel I've owned so not sure if this is normal or not, it also has the 6 speed box so also getting used to that as well. I did do a bit of research and some suggested it may be supermarket fuel so when I filled it up yesterday I used bp as well as a bottle of redex in case the engine is a bit gunked.

    Not a car person tbf so wanted a 2nd opinion before booking it in
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    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Mar 17, 2:32 PM
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    I now concur, been out to the car and started it. Selected 3rd and lifted the clutch and it didn't immediately stall.

    Did it a few times and each time was the same. On a couple of occasions I managed to get it near the top before the car stalled.

    Pricy job or not?
    Originally posted by marcarm
    Full clutch kit, plus a DMF, plus labour.

    Did the same job on my wife's Audi 1.8T petrol a few months back, was £600 from my friendly local garage because I didn't have the time to do it myself, so I'd guess at least that kind of money.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 20th Mar 17, 2:35 PM
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    An independent garage did my Avensis 1.8 petrol for £350. Mr Toyota's price was initially £750 reduced to £650 as I'm a regular customer. Perhaps get a quote from a main dealer as a reference then speak to a recommended independent garage.
    • marcarm
    • By marcarm 20th Mar 17, 2:40 PM
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    I go to our local anyway as we have been using them for ages and they are very trustworthy.

    They are calling their suppliers and will be giving me a call back with a price later today.
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 20th Mar 17, 6:38 PM
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    Full clutch kit, plus a DMF, plus labour.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    Is the flywheel a service part these days?

    My Audi needed a new one at 170k as the rubber between the masses had almost failed, the Porsche didn't when the clutch was replaced at 98k.
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    • shopbot
    • By shopbot 20th Mar 17, 7:00 PM
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    Full clutch kit, plus a DMF, plus labour.

    Did the same job on my wife's Audi 1.8T petrol a few months back, was £600 from my friendly local garage because I didn't have the time to do it myself, so I'd guess at least that kind of money.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    I'd advise the OP to definitely change the DMF at the same time.

    I had a slipping clutch on a petrol Mondeo MK3 which was returned to the secondhand dealer the day I bought it. They assured me it would be repaired properly including DMF at their cost. They didn't replace the DMF. It lasted a year before the clutch failed. Because of the time interval I couldn't prove it was their fault. I paid for it to be replaced by a recommended good independent. It cost around £1000.

    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 20th Mar 17, 9:17 PM
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    Take it it's a price job if it is the clutch?

    Really annoyed as the car has been really well looked after, recently serviced and mot but guess they don't look at the clutch then. Having just bought the car and then having to drop some more money on getting the clutch replaced.................
    Originally posted by marcarm
    No they don't look at the clutch in a MOT or a service because it requires the gearbox to be removed and its the best part of a day to do that on a Mondeo as it is quite an involved job.

    Clutch replacement with dual mass flywheel and clutch slave cylinder WHICH YOU WANT TO DO AT THE SAME TIME is about £700-£800. You could save a couple of hundred quid not changing the DMF and slave cylinder but its a false economy because when they do fail it'll be another £400+ in labour you could have avoided.
    • marcarm
    • By marcarm 21st Mar 17, 12:04 PM
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    Garage confirmed it was the clutch, quite of £1.1k :-(
    Although I am able to source the parts cheaper and they will fit them so just need to decide why to do now.

    Mr Clutch quoted £450 but of course that is the clutch only and not the dmf
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 21st Mar 17, 12:11 PM
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    Is this the gutless 1.8 tdci pug engined mondeo ?
    I know they do this, its just to weak an engine to get it moving until the turbo finally wakes up.

    If its th 2.0, the clutch is going.
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    • mcpitman
    • By mcpitman 21st Mar 17, 1:27 PM
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    Garage confirmed it was the clutch, quite of £1.1k :-(
    Although I am able to source the parts cheaper and they will fit them so just need to decide why to do now.

    Mr Clutch quoted £450 but of course that is the clutch only and not the dmf
    Originally posted by marcarm

    Ouch on the 1st price, however worth checking with Mr Clutch how much for DMF at the same time. They have the car to bits to replace clutch, it should only be fractionally more than the additional cost of the DMF to have that fitted too.
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    • marcarm
    • By marcarm 21st Mar 17, 4:57 PM
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    Ouch on the 1st price, however worth checking with Mr Clutch how much for DMF at the same time. They have the car to bits to replace clutch, it should only be fractionally more than the additional cost of the DMF to have that fitted too.
    Originally posted by mcpitman
    I have had other quotes ranging from £700 - £1.2k for a main dealer.

    Shame my local garage couldn't do it cheaper as they are very trustworthy and have been using them for years.

    Will try Mr. Clutch to see what the additional would be.
    • shopbot
    • By shopbot 21st Mar 17, 8:31 PM
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    I have had other quotes ranging from £700 - £1.2k for a main dealer.

    Shame my local garage couldn't do it cheaper as they are very trustworthy and have been using them for years.

    Will try Mr. Clutch to see what the additional would be.
    Originally posted by marcarm
    I would recommend using your local if you rate them as you say you do. Unfortunately it is an eye wateringly expensive job and sometimes it's best to 'bite the bullet' and use someone you trust.

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