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    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 20th Mar 17, 9:17 AM
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    supaguard etc
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:17 AM
    supaguard etc 20th Mar 17 at 9:17 AM
    When I buy a new car - I am offered supaguard etc
    at about £400
    I have never accepted this option
    but what is supaguard ?
    Is it worth it ?
    Js there a home applied option ?
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    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 20th Mar 17, 9:20 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:20 AM
    It's a fancy polish which claims all kinds of miracles.
    At £400, no. You can buy the stuff for £30 on eBay.
    Yes, buy the stuff on eBay and DIY.

    A load of people will be along soon to tell you how it's great and their 20yo car with SupaLifeSnakeGuardOilXShine only needs a teaspoon-full of water waved near it every six weeks to keep it looking like new, but IME a decent wash and wax will do the job just as well, and at less cost over the life of the vehicle.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 20th Mar 17, 9:21 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:21 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:21 AM
    Supagard is a paint and fabric "protection" applied to the car. It's a waste of money imho and I'd never have it done. Far better spending that kind of money on taking it to a professional detailer for a new car prep & detail.
    • DUTR
    • By DUTR 20th Mar 17, 9:36 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:36 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:36 AM
    When I buy a new car - I am offered supaguard etc
    at about £400
    I have never accepted this option
    but what is supaguard ?
    Is it worth it ?
    Js there a home applied option ?
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    I'm sure you could have asked the sales person, anyways it's a paint sealant and fabric protector.
    A bottle of say AG extra gloss protection and a tin of scotchguard will set you back around £20, then there is the labour and skill of application.
    Both are best when applied to clean surfaces (eg new of freshly valet'd vehicle).
    The durability of both depends upon continued maintainance and timeley re-application.
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 20th Mar 17, 9:56 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:56 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:56 AM
    It comes with a guarantee as long as you abide by their conditions which will include washing the car every 5 minutes with their shampoo & conditioning it with their conditioner in between washes.

    I may have exaggerated slightly.
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
    • markelock
    • By markelock 20th Mar 17, 10:18 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 10:18 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 10:18 AM
    It comes with a guarantee as long as you abide by their conditions which will include washing the car every 5 minutes with their shampoo & conditioning it with their conditioner in between washes.

    I may have exaggerated slightly.
    Originally posted by EssexExile
    You're not wrong!

    I know someone who bought a new car recently, and paid for this.

    Complete waste of money, in order to apply it, someone has washed it, and they won't have washed it carefully/properly, so it's covered in swirls.

    As mentioned above, the max you would pay for a full detail would be around £600 (and thats for a big car).

    When you start looking into it, these "new" cars need a lot of correction, so why apply a level of protection on top of something that isn't perfect in the first place?
    Remember the time he ate my goldfish? And you lied and said I never had goldfish. Then why did I have the bowl Bart? Why did I have the bowl?
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 20th Mar 17, 10:40 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 10:40 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 10:40 AM
    This sort of stuff works, but it doesn't last very long at all.

    I saw a demo where they coated a sheet of kitchen towel with it, turned the corners up, poured in water and turned the kitchen roll into a water bowl.

    Looks amazing and i'm sure that trick sells it to millions of customers, but if it doesn't last then what's the point?
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • facade
    • By facade 20th Mar 17, 11:07 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:07 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:07 AM
    Scotchguarding fabric seats is a good idea, which you can do yourself when brand new for a few pounds..
    The rest is a paint sealer that looks good for a few weeks, then fades.

    My advice is to get the car home, and then in the flush of first ownership, go over it yourself with some good quality carnuba wax, then you will notice all the little defects in the paint to go back and complain about, with a chance of getting them rectified.

    You need a top quality product, as if you are anything like me, you won't ever have the enthusiasm to do it again, so it needs to last for several years
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science )
    • 50Twuncle
    • By 50Twuncle 20th Mar 17, 11:19 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:19 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 11:19 AM
    The paint treatment claims to be a polymer type (whatever that means) - I had assumed that it was similar to teflon (non-stick) ?
    Does it really last for 3 years +
    • facade
    • By facade 20th Mar 17, 11:51 AM
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    Does it really last for 3 years +
    Originally posted by 50Twuncle
    Not a chance

    To qualify the "Not a chance"- if you continually re-apply tiny amounts by using the special shampoo regularly it lasts quite a while. I suppose if you compare a car like mine that is washed whenever my clothes get dirty getting in, and one that is washed every week and superguarded, mine will look as shabby as it does, and the superguarded one will still be presentable.

    I tart up my motorbikes with autoglym super resin polish, and seal with autoglym polymer sealer*, and they do look nice & shiny for a few weeks, but I do them each year, and they don't go out in the rain or if there is any possibility of salt on the roads....

    *A motorbike is as big an area as I'm prepared to clean & polish
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science )
    • vikingaero
    • By vikingaero 20th Mar 17, 5:09 PM
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    A decent paint sealant cost £15 from Halfords (an expensive place to buy it) and a can of Scotchguard is £6.50 from Wilko/Robert Dyas.

    My friend is a car salesman and he hates selling the stuff. The only people he advises to buy it are those that live in flats without car washing facilities or the terminally lazy on the basis that something is better than nothing.

    The stuff is commission laden: salesman gets £30-40 for selling it, dealer principal gets about the same, dealership gets a cut, snakeoil salesman gets a cut, snakeoil company gets a cut etc etc.
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