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    • Scaffman74
    • By Scaffman74 20th Mar 17, 6:32 AM
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    NTC fine on private land
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    • 20th Mar 17, 6:32 AM
    NTC fine on private land 20th Mar 17 at 6:32 AM
    Please can some one shed a bit of light on the private land side of these tickets....
    We parked our scaffolding vehicle on a chip shop car park, due to rush hour traffic and pedestrian volume, as we were scaffolding a small tower at the neighbouring property.
    The landowner saw us parked there and contacted the company instead of speaking with us (we had looked for people when we parked but as was 8am no one in shop)
    When receiving the ticket we spoke to the officer, who politely told us the ticket was issued so valid, and to appeal.. he took notes on our situation and even took a photo to try help.
    We appealed and found the picture was used against us, appeal was rejected and we went to arbitration, which was found to be in their favour as we were on private land.
    We only parked there for safety reasons as parking on the road was dangerous as it is 30ft from a roundabout and was at peak traffic time.
    Normal traffic wardens don't even bother with scaffolding vehicles in Norwich......
    what should we do....as driver has been named??
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 20th Mar 17, 7:10 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 7:10 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 7:10 AM
    even took a photo to try help.



    https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203628711-Norwich-Traffic-Control-Ltd

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Norwich_Traffic_Control.html

    IPC members, appeals process a sham, not (currently) litigious.

    Read NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #4 about Debt Collectors - the phase of this sc@m you're about to enter.
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 20-03-2017 at 7:13 AM.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 20th Mar 17, 9:14 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:14 AM
    Unfortunately you have fallen into the trap of thinking these are legitimate companies with proper rules and regulations, they are not.

    The "officer" is just part of the scam dressed up to look real, in reality just a low paid commission hungry muppet, that will just say anything to get his bonus, and avoid conflict.

    These are not real wardens.

    The landowner will no doubt be on a £10 commission for every successful charge paid, so why would he give you any help either.

    You are now in ignore mode, but come back in the unlikely even these idiots try a court claim.
    To quote the words of the great Count Arthur Strong "You Couldn't make it up"
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 20th Mar 17, 5:21 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 5:21 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 5:21 PM
    Please can some one shed a bit of light on the private land side of these tickets....
    We parked our scaffolding vehicle on a chip shop car park, due to rush hour traffic and pedestrian volume, as we were scaffolding a small tower at the neighbouring property.
    The landowner saw us parked there and contacted the company instead of speaking with us (we had looked for people when we parked but as was 8am no one in shop)
    When receiving the ticket we spoke to the officer, who politely told us the ticket was issued so valid, and to appeal.. he took notes on our situation and even took a photo to try help.
    We appealed and found the picture was used against us, appeal was rejected and we went to arbitration, which was found to be in their favour as we were on private land.

    We only parked there for safety reasons as parking on the road was dangerous as it is 30ft from a roundabout and was at peak traffic time.
    Normal traffic wardens don't even bother with scaffolding vehicles in Norwich...what should we do....as driver has been named??
    Originally posted by Scaffman74
    You should never have tried the widely-perceived 'kangaroo court' of IAS (not shown to be independent at all) look:

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/is-independent-appeal-service-kangaroo.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/independent-parking-committee-kangaroo.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/ipc-kangaroo-court-defies-government.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/independent-appeals-service-credibility.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/corruption-scandal-continues-at.html

    Now you know! You had no chance and he wasn't 'trying to help'. Having said that, no-one here pays these fake PCNs unless a Judge tells them to (no big deal).

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Norwich_Traffic_Control.html

    ''apparently run by Andre who is studying to be a lawyer.''

    Dunno about you but I'm seriously underwhelmed by some random bully boy 'look at me' wannabe lawyer. He used to post here I think, pretended he was different. None of these firms are different. Ignore debt collector letters. As already said, come back if you get a court claim but you can see from that link, they are not known for it and are small fry, a couple of thousand PCNs issued p.a. is a tiny business compared to the monsters of this 'industry'.
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 20-03-2017 at 5:46 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

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