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    • Atechnician
    • By Atechnician 19th Mar 17, 7:39 PM
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    Buy second house or overpay current?
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    • 19th Mar 17, 7:39 PM
    Buy second house or overpay current? 19th Mar 17 at 7:39 PM
    I still have 29 years left on my first property I've had for a year which will be getting reduced when I over pay a bit and get a lower interest rate but I can now afford to pay a second mortgage and I'm thinking maybe buy to let or buy and rent current property out.

    Should I over pay my spare cash or is it a good idea to get a second home? I will be able to save another deposit in less than a year and will have 800-1000 spare a month which could go towards a second place or overpay current

    My current mortgage is £751 a month. I suppose it would be good if I can have multiple properties when I'm in 40s and 50s
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    • flashg67
    • By flashg67 19th Mar 17, 8:24 PM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 8:24 PM
    If you fancy the idea of being a landlord (Do your research first though - it's not for everyone) then start as soon as you can, is my advice.

    I'k 50 with 2 BTL's and wish I'd started sooner - not really for the income, but to maximise capital growth for my later years.
    • Atechnician
    • By Atechnician 19th Mar 17, 8:29 PM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 8:29 PM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 8:29 PM
    Yeah I have done some research on being a landlord and spoke to estate agents for Info but still plenty of research to do. The way things are I have a excellent pension plan with my company and Im looking to retire at 55 so if I could have a few properties paid for when I'm roughly at that age would be great. Is it possible to do these days?
    • justme111
    • By justme111 20th Mar 17, 8:48 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 8:48 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 8:48 AM
    Why do you want btl if you got excellent pension?
    Do you have emergency fund saved ?
    Do you know what would you buy as a rental property and why and can you really get 25%deposit in a year on it?
    Why not overpay your mortgage instead?
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 20th Mar 17, 9:09 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:09 AM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 9:09 AM
    Yeah I have done some research on being a landlord and spoke to estate agents for Info but still plenty of research to do. The way things are I have a excellent pension plan with my company and Im looking to retire at 55 so if I could have a few properties paid for when I'm roughly at that age would be great. Is it possible to do these days?
    Originally posted by Atechnician
    have a think about how you achieve that

    5% gross yield 25% deposit 4% mortgage rate, 2% rent inflation.

    That £100k BTL house with a £75k mortgage.

    RentPA £5,000 20% for costs/tax, net £4k or say £335pm

    £75k over 30years paying £335pm inflated 2% pa

    paid off in 23years.

    If rates go up to 5% 28 years, 5.5% 31 years
    • Atechnician
    • By Atechnician 20th Mar 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 12:16 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 12:16 PM
    I would be looking for flats at the minute ranging from 50-80k

    I can save £1k a month =12k in a year plus I get about 3.5-5k every 6 months from my shares and have a couple thousand in savings so let's say £21k saving for the year that should give me enough for a deposit for a property up to 84k so can get a deposit in a year.

    Why settle for just a pension when have the opportunity to get more?
    • justme111
    • By justme111 20th Mar 17, 12:31 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 12:31 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 12:31 PM
    So you have replied a question on deposit, what about other questions? You will be left without emergency savings if you put all your money into deposit to get it to 25% in a year , will you ?
    • Atechnician
    • By Atechnician 20th Mar 17, 7:02 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 7:02 PM
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    • 20th Mar 17, 7:02 PM
    What would you class as sufficient emergency savings? I get my shares money every 6 months and have option of interest free credit cards ect, and I don't need to spend all
    That money was just an example
    • justme111
    • By justme111 21st Mar 17, 7:37 AM
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    • 21st Mar 17, 7:37 AM
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    • 21st Mar 17, 7:37 AM
    Ok , let's leave emergency savings aside.
    I would not do it if I were you (with caveats of not enough info provided). Because I would not feel comfortable having 29 years mortgage on my house while taking on more debt. Because I would not be happy dealing with leasehold, charges and likely high turnover more trouble than usual tenants in a flat.
    You do what you see fit.
    • foxy-stoat
    • By foxy-stoat 21st Mar 17, 10:58 AM
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    Have you crunched the income tax numbers for the next few years, baring in mind that in 2020 you will not be able to claim any relief on interest payments?
    • SouthLondonUser
    • By SouthLondonUser 21st Mar 17, 12:45 PM
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    No relief? My understanding is that relief will be capped at 20%, even if your marginal tax rate is higher. And of course you have to take into account the extra 3% stamp duty when you buy.
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